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yes - Suroth and Liandrin *NM* kcf Send a noteboard - 14/01/2010 08:49:16 PM
If Sorilea is a darkfriend then she needed to be told about Elza. The only way this could happen would be if one of the Forsaken was involved.

It's very odd that it was forbidden by Moridin to help Semirhage, a fact that he repeats to Rand. And yet we see SH arrive later using the BA. Moridin either changed his mind and decided to free her/set her up, or SH works alone and doesn't care what the Nae'blis thinks, or this is the work of Mesaana or another Forsaken who managed to get SH to help them.
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A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:20:20 AM 2884 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:46:01 AM 1359 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:47:58 AM 1324 Views
I wondered at the phrasing of that passage ... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 03:41:36 AM 1142 Views
Heh, you ironically misspelled "spell" *NM* Gher - 14/01/2010 04:47:55 AM 681 Views
RJ was Aes Sedai to the core! darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:33:45 AM 1272 Views
It's funny, but I know very few women (none) IRL who act like AS, but RJ definitely fits their MO RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 05:00:00 PM 1137 Views
I don't think I've ever heard a woman actually "sniff" at someone either darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:09:07 PM 1147 Views
I was under the impression that SH got the Band DREWRULESWOT! - 14/01/2010 09:10:48 AM 1108 Views
I, too, have suspicions ... Yondaime - 13/01/2010 06:11:12 AM 1288 Views
I agree! darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:13:10 AM 1116 Views
I doubt that there is anything in the book .... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 02:58:47 AM 1075 Views
Re: I doubt that there is anything in the book .... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:44:39 AM 971 Views
Wow, you should add a spoiler alert to your thread. amirebram - 13/01/2010 06:36:45 AM 1179 Views
Why couldn't have Elza got them? brett014 - 13/01/2010 06:42:03 AM 1227 Views
Re: Didn't Shadar Haran free Semirage? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:44:56 AM 1260 Views
IMO Bair is also a suspect darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:18:15 AM 1091 Views
SH has all kinds of strange powers NaClH2O - 14/01/2010 05:52:06 PM 898 Views
Yeah, SH is a wildcard BlackAdder - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM 1054 Views
Re: Why couldn't have Elza got them? amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:12:07 PM 997 Views
It was brought up a while back in one of the earlier discussion threads BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:47:33 AM 1130 Views
The whole forum is full of spoilers *NM* darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:11:38 AM 634 Views
Be more careful. Spoilers are freely allowed now. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 13/01/2010 04:05:27 PM 620 Views
He didn't mean it as a tGS spoiler BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:09:17 PM 989 Views
Exactly. I have this thing with theories ... amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:16:02 PM 1050 Views
then how do you read the forums at all? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:20:54 PM 1004 Views
With caution. amirebram - 14/01/2010 07:41:39 PM 1083 Views
I'm kind of the opposite I guess darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:50:36 PM 1053 Views
My gut feeling tells that Sorilea isn't a DF Etzel - 13/01/2010 11:24:33 AM 1264 Views
My gut agrees with your gut. *NM* Shishka - 13/01/2010 01:31:08 PM 530 Views
Great guts think alike! *NM* Etzel - 13/01/2010 03:06:29 PM 515 Views
And fool guts, seldom differ! *NM* Insomdeon - 13/01/2010 05:10:41 PM 559 Views
My gut would have gotten me killed in WOT amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:18:15 PM 1021 Views
Haha I love how the DFs are coming from all over the place! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:57:19 PM 596 Views
Me neither Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:30:27 PM 936 Views
I don't think so Sidious - 13/01/2010 06:02:40 PM 1086 Views
perhaps, but Semirhage is also in disgrace darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 06:53:04 PM 1014 Views
Actually it was very much like a DF amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:21:46 PM 1197 Views
I don't buy it Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:29:05 PM 934 Views
the thread started by pointing out Verin implies Sorilea may not be on the same side... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:26:51 PM 1051 Views
Moiraine said as much to Egwene long before that Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:07:20 AM 1073 Views
we'll just have to RAFO darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:13:17 PM 900 Views
Actually, it's not about who stole it. It's about how Elza knew where it was AND amirebram - 15/01/2010 05:53:08 PM 1046 Views
Not quite, IMO BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:53:46 PM 1046 Views
and Verin told us that you could betray the FS if you could justify it darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:55:32 PM 1101 Views
Exactly BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:58:46 PM 1037 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? Gerbeaud - 13/01/2010 09:05:19 PM 908 Views
Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:24:00 AM 1072 Views
Sorilea never saw the wards unraveled. And I'm pretty sure they were inverted. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 12:44:58 AM 964 Views
inverted yes, but she was standing right there when Cadsuane unwove them darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:47:26 AM 947 Views
As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:27:04 AM 1040 Views
Re: As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:43:16 AM 989 Views
Did you see what you wrote? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:12:58 PM 1049 Views
The point was that Sorilea knew two key pieces of information from that moment darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 03:38:27 PM 936 Views
She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 05:10:58 PM 1004 Views
Re: She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:29:39 PM 1025 Views
How do you know Caddy embraced the source only then? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 07:35:00 PM 883 Views
so you contend that she was walking around holding the Source the whole time? darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:52:10 PM 1153 Views
Very possible. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 09:14:21 PM 436 Views
Bair is at least as strong a suspect darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:17:27 PM 1014 Views
I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:34:21 PM 837 Views
That's a bit of a leap. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:55:36 PM 736 Views
Re: I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory ajah - 17/01/2010 10:03:13 AM 1240 Views
Re: Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity Gerbeaud - 14/01/2010 02:42:47 AM 1047 Views
I think Bsand or RJ stated that Shaidar Haran could not do that himself, which is why he needed Elza darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:47:04 AM 1003 Views
I disagree that Verin would have tried to create suspicion or discord. Gher - 14/01/2010 03:16:32 AM 1067 Views
Yet Verin herself tells us that she did things for the Shadow... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:51:39 AM 979 Views
Sure Gher - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM 976 Views
certainly her intentions were to be one of the good guys darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:40:26 PM 912 Views
I agree. Gher - 14/01/2010 05:53:58 PM 911 Views
this scene does happen before she is "sure" of Cadsuane darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:07:19 PM 868 Views
Alright. Gher - 14/01/2010 06:17:18 PM 1038 Views
This would be a great development. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:55:29 PM 1011 Views
that's exactly the type of foreshadowing I would expect kcf - 14/01/2010 06:48:25 PM 1031 Views
IMO either she or Bair are a DF darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:58:57 PM 1089 Views
this is pure RJ kcf - 14/01/2010 07:07:09 PM 1223 Views
True ... my personal fav is "if she's not BA she's the next thing to it" darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:01:05 PM 1016 Views
Have we ever seen two different races of darkfriends working together? Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:46:48 PM 954 Views
yes - Suroth and Liandrin *NM* kcf - 14/01/2010 08:49:16 PM 691 Views
Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1371 Views
Re: Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:08:13 AM 8170 Views
and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:14:42 PM 913 Views
Re: and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? Sidious - 16/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 1002 Views
I think they were told via a DF in the group that she had been broken darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 06:11:01 PM 996 Views
Yes, Kadere and that Aiel chick. DREWRULESWOT! - 15/01/2010 12:15:42 AM 882 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? ajah - 17/01/2010 10:07:11 AM 1020 Views
I wish it were so, but one of the FAQ's destroys this clue Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 03:01:47 PM 1007 Views
there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:07:04 PM 1047 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 05:28:08 PM 996 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:34:58 PM 981 Views
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