Frankly, the story of Ashaman tiring because they had to keep the gateway open is a mistake by Sanderson.
In CoS, Sammael opens gateways for the Shaido and Graendal notes that he had tied some of the gateway off with a loose knot to dissipate after a predetermined period of time.
And in KoD, Rand and Logain make Deathgates that open and close to random locations, tie off 6 weaves at once and start weaving more Deathgates.
So there is actually no need to actively hold open a gateway. You can just open it, tie it off and move on to creating your next gateway immediately.
And as RJ said, a tied off weave can exist for eternity if you tie a permanent knot in it. No need for elaborate cuendillar contraptions.
In CoS, Sammael opens gateways for the Shaido and Graendal notes that he had tied some of the gateway off with a loose knot to dissipate after a predetermined period of time.
And in KoD, Rand and Logain make Deathgates that open and close to random locations, tie off 6 weaves at once and start weaving more Deathgates.
So there is actually no need to actively hold open a gateway. You can just open it, tie it off and move on to creating your next gateway immediately.
And as RJ said, a tied off weave can exist for eternity if you tie a permanent knot in it. No need for elaborate cuendillar contraptions.
about knotting a weave to hold it... I do like the idea of the cuendillar frame just because if you are squeezing through a doorway in multiples of people at a time you wouldnt have to worry about someone bumping you into the edge... I for one would be terrified to come within a yard of the edge of a gateway for the fear that someone may bump me into it and kill me... Cuendillar gateway safety shields so to say... With the incorporating them into your home or some such it would help keep your house from being damaged by a gateway frame... you would be able to fit a lockable door into the frame that enables you to shut the pathway...
Cuendillar and Perpetual Gateways
- 14/01/2010 03:32:15 PM
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I'm still not sure if cuendillar would be "destroyed" or "remain"
- 14/01/2010 03:55:00 PM
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Quick question ...
- 15/01/2010 01:34:21 AM
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No - cuendillar just gets stronger the more powerful a force you use against it
- 15/01/2010 07:55:34 PM
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Cuendillar shields
- 14/01/2010 04:57:45 PM
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Wasn't the consensus...
- 14/01/2010 05:04:50 PM
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Really?
- 14/01/2010 05:30:40 PM
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Re: Really?
- 14/01/2010 05:52:45 PM
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Even so...
- 14/01/2010 06:30:35 PM
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Not sure, but the discussion might be saved somewhere (maybe in my e-mail somehow)
- 14/01/2010 07:12:42 PM
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Lack of Creativity / Flame
- 14/01/2010 07:31:32 PM
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*shrug* You can look for the original discussion if you like. Desc of seal is in Book VI, P 80
- 14/01/2010 08:48:13 PM
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Re: *shrug* You can look for the original discussion if you like. Desc of seal is in Book VI, P 80
- 14/01/2010 09:23:36 PM
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Re: *shrug* You can look for the original discussion if you like. Desc of seal is in Book VI, P 80
- 14/01/2010 09:36:26 PM
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let's do some quick math to see how feasible this is...
- 15/01/2010 12:16:02 AM
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Again, Lack of Creativity
- 15/01/2010 12:54:01 AM
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right cause they are full of new ideas in WoT!
- 15/01/2010 12:57:52 AM
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Huh? Are you saying that...
- 15/01/2010 01:49:23 AM
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It's not just a matter of creativity
- 15/01/2010 03:42:38 AM
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Are you trying to be funny? 
- 15/01/2010 09:22:18 AM
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- 15/01/2010 09:22:18 AM
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I think what people are saying to you (at least what I am saying)
- 15/01/2010 07:58:31 PM
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The vast majority of WoT folk aren't particularly innovative
- 15/01/2010 08:02:52 PM
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Pretty much. I think their religion is not doing anything helpful with the Power.
- 15/01/2010 09:13:49 PM
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Mail is obviously out of the question...
- 15/01/2010 12:54:32 AM
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Create a ter'angreal that can open gateways wherever it is pointed and triggered.
- 14/01/2010 04:59:28 PM
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Maybe this was one of the violent games played for sport during The Collapse *NM*
- 14/01/2010 05:14:05 PM
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*NM*
Or they could just tie the gateway weave off, like Sammael did in CoS, and Rand did in KoD...
- 14/01/2010 07:11:56 PM
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Thanks; I thought this was the case but couldnt recall the sections.
- 14/01/2010 07:13:32 PM
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True... I forgot...
- 14/01/2010 07:18:25 PM
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Tied-off weaves dont last forever
- 14/01/2010 07:39:53 PM
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Why would this mean that the gateway weave doesn't need to be maintained? *NM*
- 17/01/2010 03:22:58 PM
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Because even if it wasn't tied off, it'd get stuck around the cuendillar doorway, unable to close. *NM*
- 22/01/2010 09:07:34 PM
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But RJ said that cuendillar could not pass into a gateway, didn't he?
- 23/01/2010 11:53:35 AM
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