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Re: Was Egwene wrong to berate both Halls after the reunification? Gerbeaud Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 06:58:40 PM

After the reunification of the Tower, Egwene told the Salidar Hall that they must apologise for breaking the Tower before she'd let them back in, and she told the Tower Hall that they were a disgrace for allowing Elaida free reign.

Was Egwene sanctimonious, pious, out of place, arrogant etc with this? I'm undecided about it, and I think there are valid arguments for both sides. I also think she's lucky they didn't box her ears or tell her to get lost in this scene, but I guess they were all shocked by the Seanchan, and caught up in their unique circumstances.

The attacking stance is obviously that Egwene was wrong to do this. Here are some reasons why she wasn't wrong...

1. She's right. The people in Salidar did break the Tower and the Tower Sitters did allow Elaida to become a tyrant. Egwene is merely telling the truth. Any member of the White ajah could have done the same.

2. Egwene is not a hypocrite because she isn't truly part of the Salidar camp. She was not present during the breaking of the Tower and played absolutely no part in it. She did not organize a rebellion against Elaida and she was forced into her position under the penalty of stilling. She therefore has the right to berate the Salidar Hall.

3. She's the Amyrlin - of all ajahs and of none. Like a member of the gray ajah sorting out a feud between two lords, Egwene can be an external critic without being hypocritical.

4. She's being politically sensible. She's making everyone say sorry as surely as a mother makes her two fighting sons say sorry to one another after a fight. If everyone is sorry, then everyone is forgiven, and wounds heal faster.

Let's hear it... was she wrong?


She was right from the point of view that both sides share some of the blame. By admonishing both the Rebels and the Loyalists, she spread the responsibility equally. This also paved the way for reconciliation. I did, however, find her delivery of the message to be rather sanctimonious. It strains credulity though that Egwene has become this fount of knowledge and wisdom.

Her decision to name Silviana a Red as her Keeper was a good move.
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Was Egwene wrong to berate both Halls after the reunification? - 12/01/2010 05:13:59 PM 6873 Views
She was right, as long as she never mentions it again - 12/01/2010 05:19:38 PM 773 Views
Exactly - 13/01/2010 04:21:50 AM 789 Views
I was just tired of reading about the Tower civil war - 19/01/2010 01:11:54 AM 660 Views
I didn't expect it, but it was absolutely the right thing for her to do. - 12/01/2010 06:13:42 PM 772 Views
perhaps a bit too harsh, but she was in the right *NM* - 12/01/2010 06:31:58 PM 340 Views
She was absolutely right and I love to hear good beratings. - 12/01/2010 06:49:56 PM 728 Views
Like you'd say anything else. *NM* - 13/01/2010 04:22:13 AM 289 Views
I think she was right. - 12/01/2010 06:57:34 PM 697 Views
Re: Was Egwene wrong to berate both Halls after the reunification? - 12/01/2010 06:58:40 PM 697 Views
Reasonable in terms of power politics, but still somewhat deceitful. - 12/01/2010 07:06:33 PM 741 Views
I'm not sure deceitful is the right word for the circumstances - 12/01/2010 07:10:57 PM 778 Views
Yeah.. - 12/01/2010 07:23:11 PM 649 Views
One of your reasons is simply wrong. - 12/01/2010 07:16:56 PM 742 Views
I agree. *NM* - 13/01/2010 05:08:37 PM 274 Views
Re: Was Egwene wrong to berate both Halls after the reunification? - 12/01/2010 07:20:30 PM 757 Views
I doubt it. - 12/01/2010 09:58:40 PM 647 Views
Or... - 13/01/2010 12:10:33 AM 668 Views
Re: Or... - 13/01/2010 12:24:19 AM 617 Views
Re: Or... - 13/01/2010 12:47:12 AM 650 Views
me too *NM* - 13/01/2010 04:10:11 AM 265 Views
Re: I doubt it. - 13/01/2010 02:41:04 PM 599 Views
Ugly, IMO, but a keen political manuever - 12/01/2010 09:31:48 PM 629 Views
It was very clear where her sympathies lie. A lot of it was superficial. - 12/01/2010 10:41:09 PM 778 Views
She didn't mention/berate the 300+ AS who ignored this whole facade of a plotline. - 13/01/2010 01:27:02 AM 667 Views
*NM* - 13/01/2010 03:13:59 AM 281 Views
it's not like they were there to berate! *NM* - 13/01/2010 04:10:49 AM 267 Views
Wait until they come back and she slams them for "ignoring the Tower in its hour of need." *NM* - 13/01/2010 04:20:55 AM 271 Views
She should - 13/01/2010 04:22:13 AM 721 Views
Re: She should - 13/01/2010 04:33:27 AM 657 Views
okay so 5 or 6 women actually looked at the greater good - 13/01/2010 04:39:49 AM 696 Views
I agree! *NM* - 13/01/2010 04:34:21 PM 267 Views

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