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Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM
The Shadow is CONSTANTLY talking about how much they want Rand to turn to the dark side of the One Power, as it were.

I'd say giving Rand access to an all-powerful, insanely addictive power source only accessible through the Dark One (accessed in a fit of rage) definitely led Rand a few steps down that path.


If Semirhage simply had taken him to SG, the Shadow could have done anything to Rand (who probably would be quite broken after killing Min by himself). Therefore I don't see the DO - the "ur-control freak" - giving away this advantage by allowing Rand to free himself and kill one of his best Forsaken with the DO's own power, just for the chance that this might already turn Rand to the Shadow (which didn't happen in the end).

Besides that, I think the "clouded face" Rand sees when he takes the TP, strongly indicates that Rand is using Moridin's access to the TP via their link. If this is right, and if the DO didn't know about their link before, it will be interesting to see how it might change the relationship between the DO and his Nae'blis (maybe Demandred will get his chance to become the leader?)
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1320 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 749 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 281 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 579 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 600 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 256 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 638 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 579 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 526 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 615 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 528 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 627 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 592 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 556 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 508 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 549 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 533 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 587 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 661 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 267 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 256 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 261 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 295 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 625 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 647 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 500 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 628 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 603 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 602 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 568 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 268 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 536 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 279 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 464 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 565 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 611 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 246 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 543 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 596 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 607 Views
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