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I think... Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM
It would explain her eagnerness to pay back Rand and why Shaidar Haran said she was broken; I don't think Shaidar Haran cared about her getting spanked: what it was concerned with was that Semirhage talked under interrogation. The information they gained may not be supremely important, but perhaps this is how Cadsuane and the Wise Ones knew Tam was with Perrin. I don't really see any other satisfactory answer for their access to this knowledge besides the Shadow's persavive information network.


The Wise Ones learned that Tam stays with Perrin via contacting the dreams of the WO with Perrin or simply through Sulin (apparently the WO fetched Sulin at some point from Perrin's group to get a report about the Shaido, etc.). Eventually they told Cadsuane about it.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1382 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 806 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 304 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 636 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 656 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 280 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 691 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 635 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 586 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 680 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 584 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 680 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 649 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 613 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 540 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 615 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 595 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 650 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 712 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 287 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 281 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 283 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 317 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 686 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 701 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 563 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 681 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 660 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 659 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 627 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 291 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 596 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 291 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 518 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 628 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 641 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 272 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 599 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 647 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 658 Views
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