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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM
Was Semirhage broken? Maybe I did not read the scene carefully enough but my impression was that she did not like the experience i.e. being spanked and her face shoved into the food, she cried, asked them to stop etc but afterwars she was as defient as ever.

Given more time Cadsuane may have fully broken Semirhage but if you compare her situation to the training of a damane, once a damane is freed she does not want to do anything without an order from the Sul'dam. Semirhage was no where near that state.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1382 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 806 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 304 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 636 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 656 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 280 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 692 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 635 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 586 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 680 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 584 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 680 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 649 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 613 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 540 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 615 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 595 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 650 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 712 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 287 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 281 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 283 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 317 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 686 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 702 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 563 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 681 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 660 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 659 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 627 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 291 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 596 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 291 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 518 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 628 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 641 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 272 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 599 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 648 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 658 Views
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