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Re: But... Heiko Send a noteboard - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM

I agree they could just as easily have killed her, but they gave up the advantage when they didn't attack and when Taim sat there and told them not to be stupid, there are only 2 of them (not knowing Renaile was a channeler). Overall this is a bad example of who is more skilled...

That advantage was never lost. They could have shot a deadly weave at the women any time, and Elayne wouldn't have known. She didn't even know if they were holding the power.

Elayne, however, did a foolish thing by not hiding her ability and that of the others. That way, they'd have held the same advantage.
I'm more interested in the Flinn-circle vs. Demandred and Verin-circle vs. Graendal ... obviously both of these battles were relatively evenly matched and the Forsaken should have destroyed the others with barely a thought...


With Flinn, I think it goes to show that he is quite strong and skilled.

The Verin circle is one of the most important reasons why I think the Aes Sedai are not nearly as weak compared to the Forsaken as some others suggest.


Furthermore, Verin was Black Ajah and unrestricted in her weave research. She probably knew some really nasty, and previously unknown, weaves.
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Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:34:05 PM 1437 Views
Basically you have to be ready for anything! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:45:31 PM 791 Views
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ROFL darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 01:01:03 AM 627 Views
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For a major theme, it sure is surprising Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:22 AM 709 Views
really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 04:53:48 AM 646 Views
Re: really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:04 PM 736 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:48:14 PM 830 Views
Thanks for pointing to that Taim incident... its another proof... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 04:15:33 PM 785 Views
I always like to think that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha Linked can match Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:26:35 PM 713 Views
Those three... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 05:35:24 PM 686 Views
I think this is probably close darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:19:40 PM 843 Views
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HA! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:01:14 PM 807 Views
Re: HA! Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:37:06 AM 837 Views
Re: HA! fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:21:01 PM 640 Views
d'oh ... you've got him there darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:35:15 PM 582 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 03:02:04 PM 624 Views
Re: Hmm... darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 04:47:05 PM 748 Views
Re: Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 05:06:06 PM 744 Views
as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 834 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:32:57 PM 2963 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM 827 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM 967 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 10/01/2010 02:06:09 AM 776 Views
There are issues, of course! fionwe1987 - 09/01/2010 06:17:08 PM 943 Views
Re: There are issues, of course! Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:18:03 PM 902 Views
I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 831 Views
Getting tired of this merry go round, but here we go again... Shannow - 07/01/2010 09:08:59 PM 742 Views
Don't get on it! It causes insanity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:29:15 PM 648 Views
d'uh darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:57:30 PM 735 Views
For the last time! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM 907 Views
it's about EFFECTIVE strength Fionwe (jk) darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:05:48 PM 605 Views
I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 10:11:46 PM 718 Views
and he's gone out of his way IMO to show that it's a stupid darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:41:03 PM 776 Views
Re: I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:38:48 AM 633 Views
I'd actually go with Elayne in matters of battle. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:47:34 PM 743 Views
Wow, I wasn't expecting that Sidious - 08/01/2010 02:55:53 PM 825 Views
I'm not too impressed with the Forsaken so far. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 03:30:43 PM 649 Views
I'm tempted to go with Taim too, but... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:25:52 PM 691 Views
If Elayne had wanted Taim dead, he and his minions would have been dead darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:29 PM 740 Views
The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 653 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 702 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 08:53:11 PM 903 Views
Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 751 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 765 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 586 Views
Re: But... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM 761 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 642 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 654 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 461 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 917 Views
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