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Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM
I deleted the arguments that are purely opinion... no use going in circles over the our personal interpretations ... suffice to say I disagree with how you take words like "amazing" to mean Nynaeve must be 2x as strong. And we've not got a comparative quote about how brightly Egwene or Elayne shine, in fact we've never even seen them draw to full potential unaided so it's practically impossible to use quotes like that to quantify their strength.

In short, RJ's choice of adjectives doesn't cut it for me :)

Elayne and Egwene also comment on how massively complex Healing seems at one point or another, yet now they are re-discovering Traveling and making Ter'angreal. Egwene notes how she thought she'd never be able to weave 12 flows at once, yet now she can ... IMO Nynaeve and Rand started out at very close to full potential early in the series and Egwene/Elayne started from scratch.

I don't really think that the Air-lifting thing works, for the following reasons...

1. Nynaeve may be considering the limitations of the well, and not her own ability. We don't know how it works.


She flat out states that lifting them both would take half of the saidar in the Well. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

2. Nynaeve is unskilled in everything except Healing, according to Cadsuane.


We're talking brute force here, not some intricate weave, skill isn't exactly necessary to pick something up and move it.

3. Nynaeve may have been perturbed by the height of the building - Egwene herself says that height is a limitation when lifting things.


Yet Egwene hoisted the SF women "Some ten or twelve paces above the surface" that's 3 or more Stories of a building. Even the Palaces in WoT are described as only about 4 Stories tall ... Nynaeve was only lifting Rand and Lan to a 3rd floor room, that's pretty much the exact same height Egwene describes.
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Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:34:05 PM 1652 Views
Basically you have to be ready for anything! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:45:31 PM 982 Views
Yep. Send Daigian in Linked with 12 of her buddies (one of whom is holding an angreal) & hes screwed RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:19:03 PM 1221 Views
Miscommunication seems to be a major theme of the series *NM* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:17:16 PM 484 Views
As well as missed opportunities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:27:56 PM 916 Views
yes, the Amyrlin story line could have been wrapped up much earlier! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:55:30 PM 1037 Views
Yeah, I really wish his vision had been pushed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:16:15 PM 848 Views
ROFL darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 01:01:03 AM 814 Views
Re: ROFL RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:43:50 PM 870 Views
For a major theme, it sure is surprising Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:22 AM 910 Views
really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 04:53:48 AM 857 Views
Re: really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:04 PM 943 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:48:14 PM 1034 Views
Thanks for pointing to that Taim incident... its another proof... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 04:15:33 PM 1000 Views
I always like to think that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha Linked can match Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:26:35 PM 905 Views
Those three... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 05:35:24 PM 863 Views
I think this is probably close darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:19:40 PM 1040 Views
Sidious - 07/01/2010 08:51:15 PM 1043 Views
HA! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:01:14 PM 1006 Views
Re: HA! Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:37:06 AM 1022 Views
Re: HA! fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:21:01 PM 835 Views
d'oh ... you've got him there darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:35:15 PM 763 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 03:02:04 PM 826 Views
Re: Hmm... darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 04:47:05 PM 941 Views
Re: Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 05:06:06 PM 952 Views
as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 1056 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:32:57 PM 3176 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM 1049 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM 1157 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 10/01/2010 02:06:09 AM 969 Views
There are issues, of course! fionwe1987 - 09/01/2010 06:17:08 PM 1177 Views
Re: There are issues, of course! Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:18:03 PM 1130 Views
I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 1043 Views
Getting tired of this merry go round, but here we go again... Shannow - 07/01/2010 09:08:59 PM 945 Views
Don't get on it! It causes insanity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:29:15 PM 846 Views
d'uh darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:57:30 PM 935 Views
For the last time! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM 1108 Views
it's about EFFECTIVE strength Fionwe (jk) darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:05:48 PM 809 Views
I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 10:11:46 PM 907 Views
and he's gone out of his way IMO to show that it's a stupid darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:41:03 PM 976 Views
Re: I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:38:48 AM 829 Views
I'd actually go with Elayne in matters of battle. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:47:34 PM 933 Views
Wow, I wasn't expecting that Sidious - 08/01/2010 02:55:53 PM 1017 Views
I'm not too impressed with the Forsaken so far. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 03:30:43 PM 822 Views
I'm tempted to go with Taim too, but... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:25:52 PM 895 Views
If Elayne had wanted Taim dead, he and his minions would have been dead darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:29 PM 942 Views
The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 827 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 914 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 08:53:11 PM 1093 Views
Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 941 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 960 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 792 Views
Re: But... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM 967 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 829 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 841 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 545 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 1126 Views
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