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Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM
I deleted the arguments that are purely opinion... no use going in circles over the our personal interpretations ... suffice to say I disagree with how you take words like "amazing" to mean Nynaeve must be 2x as strong. And we've not got a comparative quote about how brightly Egwene or Elayne shine, in fact we've never even seen them draw to full potential unaided so it's practically impossible to use quotes like that to quantify their strength.

In short, RJ's choice of adjectives doesn't cut it for me :)

Elayne and Egwene also comment on how massively complex Healing seems at one point or another, yet now they are re-discovering Traveling and making Ter'angreal. Egwene notes how she thought she'd never be able to weave 12 flows at once, yet now she can ... IMO Nynaeve and Rand started out at very close to full potential early in the series and Egwene/Elayne started from scratch.

I don't really think that the Air-lifting thing works, for the following reasons...

1. Nynaeve may be considering the limitations of the well, and not her own ability. We don't know how it works.


She flat out states that lifting them both would take half of the saidar in the Well. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

2. Nynaeve is unskilled in everything except Healing, according to Cadsuane.


We're talking brute force here, not some intricate weave, skill isn't exactly necessary to pick something up and move it.

3. Nynaeve may have been perturbed by the height of the building - Egwene herself says that height is a limitation when lifting things.


Yet Egwene hoisted the SF women "Some ten or twelve paces above the surface" that's 3 or more Stories of a building. Even the Palaces in WoT are described as only about 4 Stories tall ... Nynaeve was only lifting Rand and Lan to a 3rd floor room, that's pretty much the exact same height Egwene describes.
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Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:34:05 PM 1490 Views
Basically you have to be ready for anything! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:45:31 PM 842 Views
Yep. Send Daigian in Linked with 12 of her buddies (one of whom is holding an angreal) & hes screwed RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:19:03 PM 1064 Views
Miscommunication seems to be a major theme of the series *NM* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:17:16 PM 423 Views
As well as missed opportunities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:27:56 PM 770 Views
yes, the Amyrlin story line could have been wrapped up much earlier! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:55:30 PM 885 Views
Yeah, I really wish his vision had been pushed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:16:15 PM 705 Views
ROFL darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 01:01:03 AM 673 Views
Re: ROFL RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:43:50 PM 719 Views
For a major theme, it sure is surprising Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:22 AM 763 Views
really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 04:53:48 AM 692 Views
Re: really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:04 PM 785 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:48:14 PM 880 Views
Thanks for pointing to that Taim incident... its another proof... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 04:15:33 PM 847 Views
I always like to think that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha Linked can match Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:26:35 PM 766 Views
Those three... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 05:35:24 PM 740 Views
I think this is probably close darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:19:40 PM 892 Views
Sidious - 07/01/2010 08:51:15 PM 903 Views
HA! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:01:14 PM 851 Views
Re: HA! Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:37:06 AM 884 Views
Re: HA! fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:21:01 PM 695 Views
d'oh ... you've got him there darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:35:15 PM 633 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 03:02:04 PM 680 Views
Re: Hmm... darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 04:47:05 PM 797 Views
Re: Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 05:06:06 PM 791 Views
as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 898 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:32:57 PM 3014 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM 876 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM 1022 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 10/01/2010 02:06:09 AM 828 Views
There are issues, of course! fionwe1987 - 09/01/2010 06:17:08 PM 997 Views
Re: There are issues, of course! Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:18:03 PM 958 Views
I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 888 Views
Getting tired of this merry go round, but here we go again... Shannow - 07/01/2010 09:08:59 PM 786 Views
Don't get on it! It causes insanity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:29:15 PM 701 Views
d'uh darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:57:30 PM 791 Views
For the last time! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM 960 Views
it's about EFFECTIVE strength Fionwe (jk) darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:05:48 PM 660 Views
I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 10:11:46 PM 767 Views
and he's gone out of his way IMO to show that it's a stupid darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:41:03 PM 832 Views
Re: I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:38:48 AM 684 Views
I'd actually go with Elayne in matters of battle. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:47:34 PM 801 Views
Wow, I wasn't expecting that Sidious - 08/01/2010 02:55:53 PM 875 Views
I'm not too impressed with the Forsaken so far. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 03:30:43 PM 690 Views
I'm tempted to go with Taim too, but... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:25:52 PM 743 Views
If Elayne had wanted Taim dead, he and his minions would have been dead darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:29 PM 798 Views
The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 704 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 758 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 08:53:11 PM 952 Views
Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 798 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 815 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 644 Views
Re: But... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM 822 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 698 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 706 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 473 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 974 Views
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