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Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM
That advantage was never lost. They could have shot a deadly weave at the women any time, and Elayne wouldn't have known. She didn't even know if they were holding the power. Elayne, however, did a foolish thing by not hiding her ability and that of the others. That way, they'd have held the same advantage.


I wonder if Elayne is even aware that masking hides the tingle from men. IIRC only those with Rand know that part of the trick, and in TGS Nynaeve tells us that she's not been in contact with the others.

With Flinn, I think it goes to show that he is quite strong and skilled.

The Verin circle is one of the most important reasons why I think the Aes Sedai are not nearly as weak compared to the Forsaken as some others suggest.


I'd also say Flinn had the advantage with a mixed circle, we know flows are more effective when combined than alone ... and I agree in principle with the Verin statement, but the skill level of Graendal should have made more of a difference... but since Verin wasn't held by the oaths for the last 70 years, perhaps she learned a few things about fighting with the OP. She's clearly vastly more skilled than Alivia who despite he huge strength advantage couldn't kill Cyndane!
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Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:34:05 PM 1497 Views
Basically you have to be ready for anything! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:45:31 PM 854 Views
Yep. Send Daigian in Linked with 12 of her buddies (one of whom is holding an angreal) & hes screwed RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:19:03 PM 1078 Views
Miscommunication seems to be a major theme of the series *NM* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:17:16 PM 430 Views
As well as missed opportunities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:27:56 PM 784 Views
yes, the Amyrlin story line could have been wrapped up much earlier! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:55:30 PM 896 Views
Yeah, I really wish his vision had been pushed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:16:15 PM 720 Views
ROFL darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 01:01:03 AM 683 Views
Re: ROFL RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:43:50 PM 730 Views
For a major theme, it sure is surprising Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:22 AM 778 Views
really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 04:53:48 AM 702 Views
Re: really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:04 PM 800 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:48:14 PM 892 Views
Thanks for pointing to that Taim incident... its another proof... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 04:15:33 PM 860 Views
I always like to think that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha Linked can match Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:26:35 PM 777 Views
Those three... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 05:35:24 PM 751 Views
I think this is probably close darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:19:40 PM 902 Views
Sidious - 07/01/2010 08:51:15 PM 918 Views
HA! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:01:14 PM 864 Views
Re: HA! Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:37:06 AM 893 Views
Re: HA! fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:21:01 PM 705 Views
d'oh ... you've got him there darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:35:15 PM 643 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 03:02:04 PM 694 Views
Re: Hmm... darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 04:47:05 PM 812 Views
Re: Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 05:06:06 PM 802 Views
as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 906 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:32:57 PM 3031 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM 891 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM 1034 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 10/01/2010 02:06:09 AM 843 Views
There are issues, of course! fionwe1987 - 09/01/2010 06:17:08 PM 1011 Views
Re: There are issues, of course! Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:18:03 PM 975 Views
I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 897 Views
Getting tired of this merry go round, but here we go again... Shannow - 07/01/2010 09:08:59 PM 795 Views
Don't get on it! It causes insanity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:29:15 PM 711 Views
d'uh darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:57:30 PM 801 Views
For the last time! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM 972 Views
it's about EFFECTIVE strength Fionwe (jk) darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:05:48 PM 675 Views
I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 10:11:46 PM 776 Views
and he's gone out of his way IMO to show that it's a stupid darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:41:03 PM 848 Views
Re: I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:38:48 AM 698 Views
I'd actually go with Elayne in matters of battle. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:47:34 PM 813 Views
Wow, I wasn't expecting that Sidious - 08/01/2010 02:55:53 PM 884 Views
I'm not too impressed with the Forsaken so far. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 03:30:43 PM 705 Views
I'm tempted to go with Taim too, but... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:25:52 PM 759 Views
If Elayne had wanted Taim dead, he and his minions would have been dead darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:29 PM 809 Views
The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 717 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 768 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 08:53:11 PM 963 Views
Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 812 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 825 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 662 Views
Re: But... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM 838 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 707 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 717 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 477 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 981 Views
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