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The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... Etzel Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM
They used each other and nothing more! The alliance would only have lasted until one of them was finished with the other and then they would have killed them off.

From Graendal's own thoughts she's pretty sure the others didn't even know she and Sammael were "working together"


Because you argued that Graendal also told Sammael about her lair, so she would tell Aran'gar. However, Sammael was likely the exception, because they knoew each other very well from the War of Power.
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Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious - 06/01/2010 12:10:26 PM 1399 Views
Like Graendal, she is dead... Etzel - 06/01/2010 12:19:23 PM 684 Views
hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:39:15 PM 769 Views
Nope... Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:41:15 PM 749 Views
You're reading a lot into that darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:53:47 PM 625 Views
Never happened in the series before... Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:24:40 PM 688 Views
Re: Never happened in the series before... Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:27:04 PM 559 Views
They aren't dead. She is. *NM* Myrdhyn - 06/01/2010 03:32:00 PM 297 Views
As said, your second option is likely Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:36:12 PM 642 Views
aren't you the one who keeps arguing that Slayer must have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 03:45:46 PM 667 Views
It seems... Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:55:45 PM 537 Views
perhaps, but it's "newly minted" in the Prologue darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:22:21 PM 712 Views
According to Tellings of the Wheel Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:45:19 PM 697 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:31:23 AM 542 Views
Probably enough to get some DF reports, sent out new spies to Rand, deal with some nobles, etc. *NM* Etzel - 08/01/2010 07:19:59 AM 300 Views
Or to Travel around and meet with the FS again darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:17:11 PM 545 Views
I doubt that Graendal would want or need a stronger alliance with Aran'gar... Etzel - 08/01/2010 03:40:12 PM 639 Views
That's a thin line of argument. darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 03:29:06 PM 536 Views
Possible, but very unlikely. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:37:32 PM 419 Views
No... Crossroads of Twilight happened during the Cleansing (Winter's Heart) *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:20:46 PM 280 Views
You misunderstand my comment darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:30:17 AM 1205 Views
Well, it can't be 100% concurrent... Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2010 06:33:47 AM 678 Views
We saw Perrin and Mat darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:15:53 PM 637 Views
It happened partially Sidious - 06/01/2010 03:58:58 PM 566 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:12:53 PM 564 Views
Yet Sammael knew even before he had her convinced he would be NB darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:46:03 PM 558 Views
Both were old comrades, though. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:49:11 PM 675 Views
Old comrades? darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:18 AM 580 Views
Yub, for Forsaken they were pretty close; closer than Graendal and Aran'gar. *NM* Etzel - 08/01/2010 07:18:01 AM 408 Views
I disagree that Graendal and Sammael were "chummy" darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:19:48 PM 521 Views
The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... Etzel - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM 675 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:57:35 PM 625 Views
Re: hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:33:50 PM 634 Views
I wonder if the DO could ressurect her since it was his power that killed her? *NM* lankyevilme - 06/01/2010 02:13:41 PM 314 Views
I doubt it personally darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:40:16 PM 608 Views
Here is what BS said Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:48:03 PM 751 Views
Do you think ... Shishka - 06/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 519 Views
Good question Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:39:22 PM 618 Views
Re: Do you think ... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:46:07 PM 558 Views
I think it was actually a combination of 7, 9 and 10 darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:49:53 PM 646 Views
Very inventive, but.... Semirhage is Toast with a Capital T. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:24:36 PM 324 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:47 PM 469 Views
Graendal and Semirhage are D...E...A...D dead *NM* Ryan - 06/01/2010 05:53:57 PM 291 Views
I do like number 4 *NM* Gher - 06/01/2010 06:44:24 PM 300 Views
Dead. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 07:14:10 PM 650 Views
I also like Number 4 Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:12:09 PM 644 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) MissKoalaVB - 07/01/2010 03:33:38 AM 525 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:23:43 PM 582 Views
wait you were joking? darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:45:07 AM 525 Views
He should have counted responses... Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2010 06:34:53 AM 560 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:42:26 AM 302 Views
I give you credit for the imagination, but the books will loose all integrity if they went that far. *NM* amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:56:37 PM 279 Views
A WOMAN DEAD AND GONE! *NM* Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:15:31 AM 292 Views
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