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The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... Etzel Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM
They used each other and nothing more! The alliance would only have lasted until one of them was finished with the other and then they would have killed them off.

From Graendal's own thoughts she's pretty sure the others didn't even know she and Sammael were "working together"


Because you argued that Graendal also told Sammael about her lair, so she would tell Aran'gar. However, Sammael was likely the exception, because they knoew each other very well from the War of Power.
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Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious - 06/01/2010 12:10:26 PM 1392 Views
Like Graendal, she is dead... Etzel - 06/01/2010 12:19:23 PM 679 Views
hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:39:15 PM 764 Views
Nope... Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:41:15 PM 745 Views
You're reading a lot into that darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:53:47 PM 615 Views
Never happened in the series before... Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:24:40 PM 684 Views
Re: Never happened in the series before... Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:27:04 PM 555 Views
They aren't dead. She is. *NM* Myrdhyn - 06/01/2010 03:32:00 PM 290 Views
As said, your second option is likely Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:36:12 PM 636 Views
aren't you the one who keeps arguing that Slayer must have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 03:45:46 PM 662 Views
It seems... Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:55:45 PM 530 Views
perhaps, but it's "newly minted" in the Prologue darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:22:21 PM 705 Views
According to Tellings of the Wheel Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:45:19 PM 693 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:31:23 AM 537 Views
Probably enough to get some DF reports, sent out new spies to Rand, deal with some nobles, etc. *NM* Etzel - 08/01/2010 07:19:59 AM 297 Views
Or to Travel around and meet with the FS again darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:17:11 PM 539 Views
I doubt that Graendal would want or need a stronger alliance with Aran'gar... Etzel - 08/01/2010 03:40:12 PM 632 Views
That's a thin line of argument. darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 03:29:06 PM 521 Views
Possible, but very unlikely. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:37:32 PM 414 Views
No... Crossroads of Twilight happened during the Cleansing (Winter's Heart) *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:20:46 PM 278 Views
You misunderstand my comment darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:30:17 AM 1198 Views
Well, it can't be 100% concurrent... Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2010 06:33:47 AM 670 Views
We saw Perrin and Mat darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:15:53 PM 630 Views
It happened partially Sidious - 06/01/2010 03:58:58 PM 561 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:12:53 PM 554 Views
Yet Sammael knew even before he had her convinced he would be NB darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:46:03 PM 551 Views
Both were old comrades, though. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:49:11 PM 667 Views
Old comrades? darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:18 AM 573 Views
Yub, for Forsaken they were pretty close; closer than Graendal and Aran'gar. *NM* Etzel - 08/01/2010 07:18:01 AM 404 Views
I disagree that Graendal and Sammael were "chummy" darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 03:19:48 PM 512 Views
The point was that Graendal and Aran'gar aren't that close... Etzel - 08/01/2010 03:37:06 PM 671 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:57:35 PM 623 Views
Re: hasn't BSand said there will be another Graendal POV? Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:33:50 PM 630 Views
I wonder if the DO could ressurect her since it was his power that killed her? *NM* lankyevilme - 06/01/2010 02:13:41 PM 311 Views
I doubt it personally darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:40:16 PM 603 Views
Here is what BS said Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:48:03 PM 745 Views
Do you think ... Shishka - 06/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 513 Views
Good question Etzel - 06/01/2010 05:39:22 PM 614 Views
Re: Do you think ... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:46:07 PM 553 Views
I think it was actually a combination of 7, 9 and 10 darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:49:53 PM 640 Views
Very inventive, but.... Semirhage is Toast with a Capital T. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:24:36 PM 320 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:47 PM 466 Views
Graendal and Semirhage are D...E...A...D dead *NM* Ryan - 06/01/2010 05:53:57 PM 289 Views
I do like number 4 *NM* Gher - 06/01/2010 06:44:24 PM 298 Views
Dead. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 07:14:10 PM 646 Views
I also like Number 4 Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:12:09 PM 640 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) MissKoalaVB - 07/01/2010 03:33:38 AM 517 Views
Re: Semirhage's fate (Alive or Dead?) Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:23:43 PM 577 Views
wait you were joking? darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:45:07 AM 518 Views
He should have counted responses... Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2010 06:34:53 AM 556 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:42:26 AM 297 Views
I give you credit for the imagination, but the books will loose all integrity if they went that far. *NM* amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:56:37 PM 277 Views
A WOMAN DEAD AND GONE! *NM* Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:15:31 AM 289 Views
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