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Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM

does not compute


Well, I admit I was wrong when I started the thread, but just to clarify this particular issue only.

The DO probably realises that you are dead the instant you die. It is just that since balefire causes you to die in the past this does not help.

The point is time is the issue that stops the DO from bringing you back. Balefire does not destroy souls.

If you are interested in further clarification, you can read more quotes from both RJ and BS on this subject here:

http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=372
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1544 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 946 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 944 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 973 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 877 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 788 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 912 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 811 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 783 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 728 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 745 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 715 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 724 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 706 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 859 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 773 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 822 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 705 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 793 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 738 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 722 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 731 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1216 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 819 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 858 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 770 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 872 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 691 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 726 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 391 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 753 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 756 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 725 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 427 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 710 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 347 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 711 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 690 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 842 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 742 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 753 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 772 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 760 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 760 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 783 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 729 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 715 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 688 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 792 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 675 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 763 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 748 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 754 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 775 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 712 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 778 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 721 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 657 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 840 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 767 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 738 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 700 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 761 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 685 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 692 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 846 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 693 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 701 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 779 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 711 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 754 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 826 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 691 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 695 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 770 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 701 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 848 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 802 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 759 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 792 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 686 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 787 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 739 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 777 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 700 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 772 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 940 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1041 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 667 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 713 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 791 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 690 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 986 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 733 Views
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