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yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM
The way it reads sounds like it could take a lot of time after someone's death to secure the right body... so unless it's a journey that takes months after your death I'm thinking Balefire shouldn't really make all that much difference.


Umm no, DO keeps your soul in his grasp, maybe inside the bore while waiting for a body to be secured. But the initial capture of the soul has to happen quickly. However, once the DO has your soul in his grasp, he can keep it from escaping to join the pattern.

So to continue my example. If he captured you in those 2 minutes, he could then keep your soul in his hand for years if he wanted to, he would not need to find a body in the remaining 3 minutes. But if he missed that 5 minute window, nothing could be done.


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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1513 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 916 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 917 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 939 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 845 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 757 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 880 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 784 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 756 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 693 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 724 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 696 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 695 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 677 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 830 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 751 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 789 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 675 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 757 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 709 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 695 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 700 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1190 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 793 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 826 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 735 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 845 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 665 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 699 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 380 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 729 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 730 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 697 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 413 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 680 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 333 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 676 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 654 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 819 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 716 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 720 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 741 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 732 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 723 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 751 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 698 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 679 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 663 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 765 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 641 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 729 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 720 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 729 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 741 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 683 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 751 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 688 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 631 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 806 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 735 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 705 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 664 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 725 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 662 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 666 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 820 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 659 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 673 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 745 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 680 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 723 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 795 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 664 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 664 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 738 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 673 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 816 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 774 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 732 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 762 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 656 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 760 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 707 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 744 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 669 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 743 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 908 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1004 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 640 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 689 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 750 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 658 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 954 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 700 Views
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