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Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi Send a noteboard - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM
He was thought to be the savior of the Jedi and he nearly wiped them out.

He wasn't evil, but his tactics were and slowly they consumed him.
Rand was ready to kill his father, as Anakin was ready to kill Obi-wan.

Datakim is trying to justify his actions, but Rand is cold and uncaring (much like a forsaken). Everyone who described him mention a darkness (actual dimming of light) that surrounds him. That is the concern.
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1593 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 992 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 990 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1014 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 920 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 830 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 949 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 861 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 831 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 784 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 780 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 742 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 768 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 749 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 905 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 814 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 875 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 756 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 850 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 787 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 797 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 775 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1263 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 884 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 899 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 811 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 924 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 738 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 787 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 409 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 802 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 808 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 772 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 447 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 753 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 388 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 761 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 736 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 868 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 790 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 828 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 820 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 806 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 804 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 825 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 780 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 762 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 737 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 836 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 723 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 813 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 796 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 802 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 816 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 758 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 832 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 763 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 705 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 883 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 816 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 793 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 749 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 806 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 716 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 740 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 892 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 739 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 744 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 822 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 767 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 798 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 874 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 743 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 748 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 812 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 751 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 896 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 850 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 805 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 838 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 732 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 840 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 787 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 826 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 750 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 823 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 981 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1089 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 717 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 757 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 826 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 741 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1043 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 780 Views
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