Lol, using the extremes of those levels as justification is pretty weak if you ask me. In the end your list suggests that Egwene is as close to Moghedien as Verin is to Sheriam, which would mean an almost negligible difference in strength. Once again, Egwene thinks that only Nynaeve can stand up to one of the Forsaken, therefore Egwene is not in this league.



So in other words strength doesn't matter unless the channeler makes strength the issue? Hehe, I do find this all rather amusing.

You think you're the only one who can respect the value of skill and strength, when in actual fact posters like Shannow and myself pay careful attention to it despite what you may think. The point is that you still don't get it. You're ranting about skill but you don't realise how irrelevant it is in these situations. The Forsaken have more skill than any modern channelers - they cannot be outclassed in this area. Therefore, all modern age channelers have to go on is strength. When someone comes along with Lanfear or Demandred's skill we can talk again, but until then, modern channelers need to rely on raw power, angreal, sa'angreal and circles to win. You can blab about skill all you want - you can't outclass the Forsaken so the point is irrelevant.



She says that only Nynaeve can match one of the Forsaken - that's what she really says. The whole point of the quote is to demonstrate that Egwene has no chance against the Forsaken, which your strength list allows no matter how vehemently you deny it. If Moiraine could in desperation attack Merean, then Egwene certainly could go for Moghedien if she's only one level lower. Egwene has no idea what Moghedien's skill or knowledge is, and we know that Nynaeve is unskilled - it's logical to assume she's talking about strength in the Power, not narrow minded.



What does surprise even mean? What would you have the channelers do... stand and duel formally after a countdown?



I never said you said Nynaeve is weak, merely that you place a lot of emphasis on skill when Egwene is referring to an unquestionably unskilled channeler.



I really can't believe you say this stuff. So Nynaeve didn't need skill because she made it about strength. Who's to say that most OP duels aren't about that?



RJ himself said that Lanfear, Graendal and Semirhage were the most prominent females in the Shadow due to their physical skills. Just because you think Graendal or Semirhage are better doesn't make it so. Lanfear was as close to as strong and skilled as a woman can be, even if her peers were equal or close.



And yet Cadsuane saw fit to cover her in a powerful angreal and several ter'angreal. Strange, considering Cadsuane knows that Alivia is incredibly powerful.



Beldeine... Beldeine was injured. It's laughable to think that Daigian, Flinn or Verin came close in skill to Demandred or Graendal.



Which has been my point from the beginning. They aren't close in skill, and they need strength. You interpret this as only caring about strength when in actual fact it's acknowledging what they need to do to defeat a large gap in strength and skill.



But this is a foregone conclusion, and yet you stubbornly think that she's only a level down from Moghedien. Egwene is much more skilled than Nynaeve - why can't she fight Moghedien if Nynaeve can use no skill and greater strength? Clearly Egwene's strength is far below Moghedien's and she realizes her limitations.



What is this referring to? It's obvious.