On my scale Nynaeve is probably about a 430 and Moghedien could be as strong as a 400, but IMO more likely a (375-385) with Egwene no more than 360 (as the scale showed there is a power ranges in each level). That makes her about 10% weaker than Nynaeve and about 10% stronger than Egwene. Which from what I've seen in the books is consistent with the actual evidence ... makes Egwene about 20% weaker than Nynaeve.

You are so focused on strength that you always think that the stronger channeler should win. Honestly IMO it wouldn't matter if Moghedien was 50% weaker than Egwene. She would still kick her ass in a duel! The only reason Nynaeve won (despite being at least equal in strength) was because she caught Moghedien off guard and forced the situation into a battle of strength... which d'uh Nynaeve won!



I think it's an "in addition too" thought, I'm saying the quote above is a complex thought process that addresses multiple things, you and Shannow continue to say that the only point that matters is the strength comment. IMO that's just a simple acknowledgment of an obvious fact! And she never says Nynaeve could beat Moghedien, she says Nynaeve is the only woman with Forsaken level strength. The rest is your interpretation.




That's why I explicitly stated "I think". And for the record I do think the duels against Rahvin and Sammael were heavily in Rand's favor... he had the element of surprise, and an angreal too.

Where did I say it detracted from the strength debate? I didn't. In fact it drives home the point that Nynaeve is stronger in Potential than Moghedien. You keep putting words in my mouth. I've never once said I think Nynaeve isn't as strong as a FS, in fact, I've argued for years that she's one of the very most powerful women possible!

Nynaeve just didn't need to rely on skill since she was able to make it about strength. As for TAR, that shows nothing about Nynaeve's strength in the Power, only that Moghedien was over-confident and Nynaeve very smart with amazing will power. Don't forget that Egwene escaped Moghedien's trap in TAR too, does that somehow make her stronger than Moghedien now?




1. We have no evidence that Lanfear "is the world's most skilled woman" ... she never even earned distinction in her own age! I'd say both Graendal and Semirhage had more skill than her.

2. Alivia knew more destructive weaves than any AS so she's not entirely unskilled in this situation

3. Graendal and Demandred both faced circles which I think probably helped hold them off... not to mention both of those circles were led by very experienced people.... yet Kumira was killed and Saren nearly died as well.

4. Non of the 3rd agers have enough skill to really go head to head with one of the FS and hope to win without help.

Over and over I've said Egwene would stand no chance against one of the FS, I just don't think it's ONLY about strength! Perhaps in 100 years she will have grown enough in skill to stand a chance, but given the inherent advantage of the AoL teachings even that is doubtful.

Rand has the benefit of LTT's memories to teach him many weaves and skills, coupled with his massive strength he's going to nearly always come out on top in any kind of duel.