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You more than imply it with your own list Sidious Send a noteboard - 04/01/2010 03:39:06 PM
Over and over I've said it's obvious that Moghedien is the stronger of them, it's been made very clear throughout the series and I don't refute that.


Stop backtracking. Your own list says that Moghedien lies on 375 strength and Egwene on 350. That's the same gap you give to Aes Sedai lower down e.g. the difference between Sheriam and Verin. That is a small gap and easily overcome in a duel.

What I've also said is that even massive strength deficits can be overcome by skilled opponents and that this quote is less about Egwene worrying over something she can't chang (i.e. being weaker than Moghedien) and more about the bigger issue, which is Moghediens overwhelming advantage in skill.


Then once again, why does she think that Nynaeve could perform this feat? By your own admission then you assume that Egwene thinks that Nynaeve is skilled enough to defeat Moghedien, which is not backed up by the text. Nynaeve has recurrently been called an unskilled channeler with an amazing ability with Healing.

I also think Nynaeve would never have beaten Moghedien in a duel if she hadn't caught her by surprise and essentially made the duel an arm wrestling match. At that point in the series Nynaeve wasn't even as skilled as Alivia, and we saw what happened with Cyndane.


Which is your own PoV that cannot be defended. Nynaeve defeated Moghedien head on, and later again in TAR. Nynaeve herself says that she's matching the Forsaken strength for strength. Just because it became an arm-wrestling match doesn't detract from the strength debate. In that case, Rand's duels against Rahvin and Sammael were equally flawed.

I find your continued point of view that everything OP related is directly related to how strong someone is rather blind.


Huh. You cling to the Cyndane-Alivia battle which is a comparison between arguably the world's most skilled woman vs a woman who can't even weave an umbrella, and use it as your standard in channeler dueling. Is Verin more skilled than Graendal? Is Demandred less skilled than Flinn? Is Daigian more skilled than Aran'gar? You continuously ignore the fact that the Forsaken are the most powerful channelers from their Age, and that they've only been matched by equally powerful channelers from the modern Age, channelers with angreal/sa'angreal or a team effort. If strength is not relevant then let's see Egwene, the most skilled channeler we know of, take on Cyndane or Demandred. Her own opinion doesn't sanction that, for crying out loud.
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