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Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP. RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM
You certainly have the freedom to make a supposition that it was, but we have no evidence at all that the mark was made with either Power.

It can simply be a case of Shaidar Haran being able to manipulate time/space in a way further developed than most Myrdraal.

After all, only channelers can access the True Power, and we've seen no evidence that the Dark One can make it available to Shadowspawn. The best evidence we have is that Shaidar Haran has physical limitations regarding what it can touch and how - Elza was doing most of the actual moving in TGS. If SH had access to the TP, it could have 1) removed the Compulsion in Elza's mind itself or 2) moved objects/people physically with the TP.

Whatever SH can do, it does not seem to be related to the One Power or the True Power in a readily apparent way.
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Fain's Myrddraal Etzel - 28/12/2009 01:45:58 PM 1769 Views
Nope, Myrddraal have been nothing but cannon fodder since book four *NM* Lordling - 28/12/2009 03:01:01 PM 407 Views
except, of course, for Shaidar Haran *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:12:17 PM 416 Views
But what was the purpose then? Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:43:01 PM 749 Views
To show the relationship between Fain and DO Bonden - 28/12/2009 03:52:59 PM 702 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:02:42 PM 705 Views
Re: Maybe... Bonden - 29/12/2009 03:58:57 AM 963 Views
Re: Fain's Myrddraal RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 03:19:37 PM 737 Views
Slayer also hunts Rand Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:57:11 PM 746 Views
I think it's possible that Slayer could have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 04:35:57 PM 657 Views
The explanations Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:06:02 PM 926 Views
Perhaps, I still don't buy it, but if that's the way it turns out I won't be shocked darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 05:20:06 PM 845 Views
Your reaction would be similar to BS's then Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:57:44 PM 1789 Views
I don't really have a strong opinion on which suspect did it darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:03:07 PM 659 Views
Well... Etzel - 28/12/2009 06:42:16 PM 726 Views
Indeed *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:55:52 PM 365 Views
Re: The explanations RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 08:01:19 PM 600 Views
The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:13:07 PM 676 Views
Re: The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:19:24 PM 765 Views
The reason is... Etzel - 29/12/2009 11:58:24 AM 745 Views
The reasoning is very weak. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:34:19 PM 729 Views
If you mean... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:01:25 PM 806 Views
A few points darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:14:12 PM 666 Views
You are wrong... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:25:09 PM 660 Views
Thanks for the quote .. obviously hadn't heard that one before! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:31:37 PM 752 Views
Key word - "possibly" RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:38:46 PM 660 Views
As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:06:47 PM 638 Views
Re: As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:08:09 PM 596 Views
Well, it protects you of Shadowspawn, not that bad. Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:12:04 PM 640 Views
I don't think what happened to Fain or Slayer are "gifts" darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:26:15 PM 565 Views
Slayer calls it "gifts" in his PoV Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:37:49 PM 591 Views
I think you are stretching the reality a bit darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:42:10 PM 656 Views
You confuse it a bit... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:57:07 PM 715 Views
I think you've got it backwards darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 07:12:02 PM 613 Views
However... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:16:08 PM 656 Views
I wasn't arguing that point darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM 877 Views
Some things don't have to be spelled out, if they are that clear... *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM 602 Views
clearly they do since people are discussing it! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:37:00 PM 588 Views
Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM 654 Views
Sorry, but that is utter nonsense Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM 740 Views
You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 705 Views
Simply read the books and what the authors said... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:55:42 PM 653 Views
Sorry, I think you have an opinion and read everything to support it in this case. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:02:42 PM 616 Views
Ok, then we play dumb, if you like... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:14:58 PM 740 Views
Because the Dark One is not merely a super channeler. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:21:21 PM 745 Views
Well, I disagree of course... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:36:19 PM 864 Views
You are mistaken on quite a few counts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:37:51 PM 817 Views
Actually... Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:04:54 PM 727 Views
BWB says... darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 05:48:40 PM 959 Views
Exactly. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:30 PM 336 Views
Well... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:18:08 PM 764 Views
Just pointing out that your comment about Lanfear and Moggy not being assassins darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:37:21 PM 666 Views
No... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:47:07 PM 850 Views
Re: No... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:00:20 PM 834 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:10:12 PM 597 Views
So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM 625 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:47:57 PM 570 Views
I think any Forsaken is capable of doing it. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 08:05:10 PM 656 Views
Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:16:50 PM 536 Views
Re: Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 09:21:23 PM 628 Views
She kidnapped the Sharan's ... who's to say she hasn't killed others? *NM* darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:17:28 PM 346 Views
Yeah, after TFoH! We are looking for clues before LoC, guys! *sigh* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:31:13 PM 546 Views
Where did I say this was a clue to her doing it? darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:58:29 PM 742 Views
I don't say... Etzel - 30/12/2009 12:08:27 PM 799 Views
Most of what you are talking about with Slayer is discoverd after LoC darius_sedai - 30/12/2009 02:36:18 PM 715 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:41:29 PM 632 Views
It becomes clear... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:59:03 PM 562 Views
Basically, you think Slayer killed him. I do not. Nor do I care. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:04:20 PM 545 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:17:22 PM 397 Views
Re: Slayer also hunts Rand RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 04:39:36 PM 810 Views
As said... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:54:07 PM 642 Views
Re: As said... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 07:49:22 PM 638 Views
It's rather the TP, which makes Slayer inhuman... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:21:20 PM 620 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 09:45:08 PM 665 Views
Re: makes you wonder RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:16:57 PM 697 Views
I think... Etzel - 29/12/2009 12:03:41 PM 615 Views
Fain's Myrddraal killed asmo LOL *NM* aldapelan - 29/12/2009 05:26:22 AM 398 Views
It is quite obvious that it was Mistress Laras. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:35:36 PM 366 Views
Intuitively, even. *NM* Gher - 29/12/2009 06:03:13 PM 361 Views
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