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Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM
She's influential enough in non-BA circles that Elaida trusted her to be able to help over-throw Siuan. Seems to me that she must be higher up in the overall scheme of AS strength.

I'd be she's in the same range as Beonin/Morvrin/Carlynia etc...


http://13depository.blogspot.com/2009/02/saidar-strength-ranking.html

I relied on the saidar ranking in that theory. Of course, many characters' placements in that theory can be debated, but much of it is quite plausible. I made that assumption. But even if she's stronger, that doesn't leave much room for her to be about as strong as two weak sisters. Well, depending on how where you'd place Zemaille in the 0-100 scale.


Well, according to the text she thinks she's close... depending on the scale used she could be close to the two of them combined (which is one of the reasons I like the higher level scale rather than the AS are bunched closely within a few points of each other)...

2 SF Sisters = 20 each (say 36 linked with the 10% penalty with linking)

Alivarin could = 35 and be a higher than average AS without being at the very top level.

Using the lower scale it would be more like 15/15 and 25 ... amounts to the same thing. Either way it's a very close match up with the edge going toward Zemaille... slightly stronger and if linked they would have the control bonus.
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength Shannow - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1621 Views
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well said *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 480 Views
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I have no problem with that...but it implies that the average woman today isn't at 50% of Lanfear... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:46:00 PM 998 Views
Partially agreed... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:13:46 PM 898 Views
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Sharina is AS ... she'd be dead in a few years if she hadn't gone to the Tower *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 01:08:20 AM 934 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... Phelix - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 875 Views
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Easier sulution, and real example. amirebram - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 944 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 907 Views
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Agree, but a little more curvy is better amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:17:16 PM 826 Views
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Dude, Seriously? Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 879 Views
Indeed, and that's why I propose that... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM 936 Views
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Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM 884 Views
I'm sorry, but I've never heard of a non-Gaussian bell curve. Can you prove its existence? *NM* fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 03:24:22 AM 488 Views
Maybe people in my field just use the term in a non-technical way. We do things with ... amirebram - 21/12/2009 07:24:43 PM 848 Views
It does to RJ Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 971 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 861 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 496 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 1187 Views
You can have IQ's above that... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 911 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 447 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 866 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's stre Kieran - 19/12/2009 06:02:34 PM 850 Views
I like this idea Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 1095 Views
Accidental Post *NM* Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 488 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 838 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: taura-tierno - 27/12/2009 10:05:33 PM 1017 Views
What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1207 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? taura-tierno - 28/12/2009 03:19:14 PM 876 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM 1097 Views
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