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Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM
She's influential enough in non-BA circles that Elaida trusted her to be able to help over-throw Siuan. Seems to me that she must be higher up in the overall scheme of AS strength.

I'd be she's in the same range as Beonin/Morvrin/Carlynia etc...


http://13depository.blogspot.com/2009/02/saidar-strength-ranking.html

I relied on the saidar ranking in that theory. Of course, many characters' placements in that theory can be debated, but much of it is quite plausible. I made that assumption. But even if she's stronger, that doesn't leave much room for her to be about as strong as two weak sisters. Well, depending on how where you'd place Zemaille in the 0-100 scale.


Well, according to the text she thinks she's close... depending on the scale used she could be close to the two of them combined (which is one of the reasons I like the higher level scale rather than the AS are bunched closely within a few points of each other)...

2 SF Sisters = 20 each (say 36 linked with the 10% penalty with linking)

Alivarin could = 35 and be a higher than average AS without being at the very top level.

Using the lower scale it would be more like 15/15 and 25 ... amounts to the same thing. Either way it's a very close match up with the edge going toward Zemaille... slightly stronger and if linked they would have the control bonus.
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength Shannow - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1602 Views
I always thought the curve was one sided Asha'man Warder - 18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM 904 Views
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well said *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 468 Views
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Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:48:59 PM 1051 Views
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You don't understand your own model... Shannow - 18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM 1028 Views
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Re: So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? Sidious - 19/12/2009 06:10:52 PM 885 Views
Its simple really... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 909 Views
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Age-Related Sample Bias Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM 856 Views
I have no problem with that...but it implies that the average woman today isn't at 50% of Lanfear... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:46:00 PM 971 Views
Partially agreed... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:13:46 PM 875 Views
Well, the Aes Sedai are the only group that we have detailed strength info about... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:26:48 PM 1004 Views
Sharina is AS ... she'd be dead in a few years if she hadn't gone to the Tower *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 01:08:20 AM 915 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... Phelix - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 857 Views
Well Sharina isn't a sparker and she's the strongest AS darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 07:57:17 PM 873 Views
Yes... Phelix - 18/12/2009 08:01:57 PM 955 Views
Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker? Gher - 18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM 844 Views
I think it's just a bad memory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 852 Views
Easier sulution, and real example. amirebram - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 910 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 883 Views
Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM 1093 Views
Agree, but a little more curvy is better amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:17:16 PM 798 Views
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That's just the normalized value graphed on a log scale. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:20:41 PM 855 Views
Dude, Seriously? Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 857 Views
Indeed, and that's why I propose that... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM 900 Views
So RJ used two separate scales, one actual one relative, to explain the same thing? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:33:20 PM 846 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM 853 Views
I'm sorry, but I've never heard of a non-Gaussian bell curve. Can you prove its existence? *NM* fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 03:24:22 AM 475 Views
Maybe people in my field just use the term in a non-technical way. We do things with ... amirebram - 21/12/2009 07:24:43 PM 823 Views
It does to RJ Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 955 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 832 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 488 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 1168 Views
You can have IQ's above that... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 891 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 435 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 845 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's stre Kieran - 19/12/2009 06:02:34 PM 824 Views
I like this idea Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 1057 Views
Accidental Post *NM* Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 476 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 818 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: taura-tierno - 27/12/2009 10:05:33 PM 987 Views
What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1179 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? taura-tierno - 28/12/2009 03:19:14 PM 862 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM 1074 Views
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