How does that square with her being weaker than Sheriam who is herself less than 50% of Egwene (if Egwene is stronger than Amys and Melaine)? By your estimation Beonin just made a gateway that is 60% the size of Egwene, but we know that she is less than half as strong ... how does that work?
And now 4 women of Beonin level are strong enough to equal Rand, when Egwene, Romanda and Lelaine could not?
PS good catch on my faulty math
And now 4 women of Beonin level are strong enough to equal Rand, when Egwene, Romanda and Lelaine could not?
PS good catch on my faulty math

Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
This message last edited by darius_sedai on 23/12/2009 at 06:56:02 PM
I've been playing with some numbers since we've been having all of these OP strength debates
20/12/2009 06:34:05 PM
- 1363 Views
Few glaring errors...
20/12/2009 09:04:55 PM
- 943 Views
Re: Few glaring errors...
21/12/2009 07:52:18 AM
- 899 Views
You don't get it, do you...
21/12/2009 08:19:00 AM
- 850 Views
Didn't you claim that Eggy+Rom+Lel cannot match a male forsaken? Now they can match Lanfear?
21/12/2009 04:14:32 PM
- 741 Views
What you are missing is that
21/12/2009 06:46:04 PM
- 785 Views
I'm not missing it at all..
21/12/2009 06:58:04 PM
- 814 Views
Let's try matching that with the actual text
22/12/2009 03:01:36 PM
- 786 Views
Not correct...
22/12/2009 03:29:24 PM
- 882 Views
Believe as you like, I'm not here to convince you to otherwise, I'm stating how I read the evidence
22/12/2009 06:01:24 PM
- 780 Views
You're reading the evidence wrong.
22/12/2009 06:27:17 PM
- 763 Views
RJ also pointed out that Alivia's skill set as a weapon came in handy
22/12/2009 07:40:35 PM
- 715 Views
I thought a power law distribution is much more likely, TBH
20/12/2009 09:39:21 PM
- 847 Views
Yes. It essentially refers to a skewed histogram - biased to the lower end of the range...
20/12/2009 09:53:18 PM
- 871 Views
Corrections
21/12/2009 01:48:43 AM
- 896 Views
No...
21/12/2009 07:47:58 AM
- 775 Views
True, the application of this model is inconsistent *NM*
21/12/2009 02:34:26 PM
- 609 Views
Not if you point out that the average AS is not as strong as the overall average channeler
25/12/2009 04:30:17 AM
- 752 Views
yet RJ has said flat out that OP strength is on an Bell Curve. Meaning the majority of channelers
21/12/2009 07:36:22 AM
- 758 Views
Perhaps...
21/12/2009 07:52:13 AM
- 840 Views
I've always hated bell curves
21/12/2009 03:56:26 PM
- 775 Views
The most logical answer is that the average AOL channeler was stronger than the current average...
21/12/2009 06:36:07 PM
- 765 Views
and that in no way maps to any kind of Bell Curve
22/12/2009 06:02:41 PM
- 649 Views
Why?
22/12/2009 06:34:25 PM
- 782 Views
Can you provide the quote where RJ tells us the
22/12/2009 07:45:04 PM
- 694 Views
Always go back to the evidence...
22/12/2009 09:03:42 PM
- 846 Views
I'll respond when you can actually provide a few actual quotes to support any of this
23/12/2009 03:20:44 PM
- 762 Views
I've been looking into this a bit... and you really do overstate things to suit your arguments
24/12/2009 06:15:44 PM
- 789 Views
And in looking for quotes for another thread I came across this gem
29/12/2009 09:54:34 PM
- 762 Views
I don't think we have a representative sample of the mode in this population
22/12/2009 08:35:23 PM
- 815 Views
Except that gateway size is used multiple times by characters to judge comparative strength...
22/12/2009 09:21:07 PM
- 797 Views
Re: Except that gateway size is used multiple times by characters to judge comparative strength...
22/12/2009 11:32:21 PM
- 909 Views
I agree that it's practically impossible to determine strength
23/12/2009 03:19:49 PM
- 791 Views
How convenient. And by the way, it is NOT tied to a Talent. Anyone who is strong enough, can Travel. *NM*
23/12/2009 04:36:24 PM
- 448 Views
Seriously go re-read the series, how can you have missed that Traveling is a Talent?
23/12/2009 04:54:51 PM
- 695 Views
It is a weave, the knowledge of which guarantees that you can use it, if you are strong enough...
23/12/2009 05:35:36 PM
- 785 Views
Yet every AS can Heal to a degree and Cloud Dancing involves weaves too
23/12/2009 05:41:42 PM
- 816 Views
Lews Therin can't Heal. Aginor can't Heal. If you don't have the Talent, you can't do it. *NM*
23/12/2009 05:52:02 PM
- 444 Views
LTT and Aginor have "Little Ability" with Healing
23/12/2009 06:02:13 PM
- 820 Views
Because the channelers THEMSELVES don't use Healing to judge each other's strength...
23/12/2009 06:06:58 PM
- 739 Views
The Channelers state that there is a minimum level of strength to make the Weave work
23/12/2009 06:11:55 PM
- 912 Views
No, it makes her 25% as strong as Rand! Thanks for proving my model to be virtually perfect!
23/12/2009 06:36:53 PM
- 742 Views
Nope, Beonin shouldn't be that strong!
23/12/2009 06:48:30 PM
- 717 Views
This is true, however...
23/12/2009 04:55:48 PM
- 818 Views
Aviendha's gateway size doesn't decrease. She is just less energy efficient in creating it...
23/12/2009 05:30:17 PM
- 1090 Views
Aviendha is suffering from the second weave limitation
23/12/2009 05:37:45 PM
- 860 Views
Conceded. My faulty memory is to blame in this case. But it doesn't change the rule...
23/12/2009 06:01:33 PM
- 704 Views
I'll give you that there is a stength limitation to Traveling
23/12/2009 06:06:41 PM
- 730 Views
Why do the characters in the books judge each other's strength on gateway size then? *NM*
23/12/2009 06:08:17 PM
- 413 Views
Re: Why do the characters in the books judge each other's strength on gateway size then?
23/12/2009 06:20:18 PM
- 749 Views
And there you have it...Thank you.
23/12/2009 06:27:24 PM
- 740 Views
And linked with Romanda and Lelaine
23/12/2009 06:34:42 PM
- 741 Views
Sorry. That's pure speculation on your part. *NM*
23/12/2009 06:38:43 PM
- 423 Views
No more than yours is!
23/12/2009 06:49:57 PM
- 769 Views
Re: I don't think we have a representative sample of the mode in this population
26/12/2009 12:38:43 PM
- 757 Views
Re: I don't think we have a representative sample of the mode in this population *NM*
26/12/2009 12:41:01 PM
- 394 Views
Re: I don't think we have a representative sample of the mode in this population
26/12/2009 06:37:50 PM
- 747 Views
Goodness
31/12/2009 03:37:23 AM
- 774 Views
I'm working within the context of what we've been told by the author
31/12/2009 03:43:31 AM
- 728 Views
No you are not
31/12/2009 03:58:28 AM
- 772 Views
Back to school AS, and you will be able to do this
26/12/2009 12:34:39 PM
- 711 Views
The problem we're working with is that RJ says strength follows a Bell Curve distribution
26/12/2009 03:29:26 PM
- 747 Views
And RJ knew his maths (and you don't)
31/12/2009 03:22:09 AM
- 786 Views
I'm not the one who said OP strength followed a Bell Curve Distribution
31/12/2009 03:34:55 AM
- 737 Views