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*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas Send a noteboard - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM
Surely the point of reducing her strength is to bring her down to a level of humility or vulnerability where she cannot use her superior strength as her automatic advantage over everyone else.

In my view, the only purpose of reducing Lanfear in strength would be to make her weaker than some of the other female Forsaken. Else it serves no purpose.


Exactly, she has been slightly lowered in overall strength; however, it isn't necessarily to put female forsaken above her in the power. Instead, I think it was for a couple of other reasons:

1) I think it is to put Lanfear above Cyndane in strength...that alone would piss her off to no end- afterall, if you were a perfectionist, like Lanfear, that was one of the two people responsible for unleashing the dark one on the world and you could no longer live up to your former self wouldn't you be pissed off??
2) Now, Lanfere, who was rivaled by no one in her own age and time, is second to some former damane, who is one of the second-rate 3rd age channelers that she loathes so much (not saying that Shai'tan did this intentionally....but then again, knowing the forsaken how he does, maybe he did).
3) We know that she was severed/stilled when she fell through the ter'angreal doorframe, with Moraine, to the Aelfinn's homeland. We know of several women in the series, including Leane, Siuan, and the Aes Sedai from Dumai Well that have been severed. Of these, Leane and Siuan are significantly weaker, because they were healed imperfectly by a female- we know it is imperfect because the other Aes Sedai were healed by a man, and appear to be at their original strength. This last point is my contention though: do we know they are at their original strength, or are they just very close to their original strength (so compared to Leane and Siuan there is no discussion needed about their new strength levels).


Lanfear*
also: I meant that she was not rivaled by any females, and most men...but not everyone
sorry, I'm new to this :)
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 2045 Views
Except... - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 1052 Views
There's no evidence for that - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 1037 Views
It's common sense - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 950 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 1086 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 934 Views
I didn't say that - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 996 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 968 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 1121 Views
Hmm... - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 1115 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 1192 Views
But I'm not - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 1075 Views
Let me ask you this... - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 1140 Views
Very good point *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 497 Views
One possibility - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 1034 Views
All assumption - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 1030 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 928 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 1063 Views
Why? - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1597 Views
Re: Why? - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 967 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 947 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 969 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 1085 Views
Probably not in this case - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 949 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 970 Views
Yeah... entirely - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 930 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 957 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 1038 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 988 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 971 Views
my comments w/ edit - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 1058 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 1124 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 888 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 649 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 505 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 1055 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 1066 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 914 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 562 Views
Too many levels - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 1030 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 913 Views
21 levels is largely a myth - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 962 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 1065 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 469 Views
That's good to know. - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 894 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 1085 Views
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Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 950 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1394 Views
Agree with nearly all - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 894 Views
more hopefully to come - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 875 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 1131 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 987 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 894 Views
It's possible - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 942 Views
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