Surely the point of reducing her strength is to bring her down to a level of humility or vulnerability where she cannot use her superior strength as her automatic advantage over everyone else.
In my view, the only purpose of reducing Lanfear in strength would be to make her weaker than some of the other female Forsaken. Else it serves no purpose.
Exactly, she has been slightly lowered in overall strength; however, it isn't necessarily to put female forsaken above her in the power. Instead, I think it was for a couple of other reasons:
1) I think it is to put Lanfear above Cyndane in strength...that alone would piss her off to no end- afterall, if you were a perfectionist, like Lanfear, that was one of the two people responsible for unleashing the dark one on the world and you could no longer live up to your former self wouldn't you be pissed off??
2) Now, Lanfere, who was rivaled by no one in her own age and time, is second to some former damane, who is one of the second-rate 3rd age channelers that she loathes so much (not saying that Shai'tan did this intentionally....but then again, knowing the forsaken how he does, maybe he did).
3) We know that she was severed/stilled when she fell through the ter'angreal doorframe, with Moraine, to the Aelfinn's homeland. We know of several women in the series, including Leane, Siuan, and the Aes Sedai from Dumai Well that have been severed. Of these, Leane and Siuan are significantly weaker, because they were healed imperfectly by a female- we know it is imperfect because the other Aes Sedai were healed by a man, and appear to be at their original strength. This last point is my contention though: do we know they are at their original strength, or are they just very close to their original strength (so compared to Leane and Siuan there is no discussion needed about their new strength levels).
In my view, the only purpose of reducing Lanfear in strength would be to make her weaker than some of the other female Forsaken. Else it serves no purpose.
Exactly, she has been slightly lowered in overall strength; however, it isn't necessarily to put female forsaken above her in the power. Instead, I think it was for a couple of other reasons:
1) I think it is to put Lanfear above Cyndane in strength...that alone would piss her off to no end- afterall, if you were a perfectionist, like Lanfear, that was one of the two people responsible for unleashing the dark one on the world and you could no longer live up to your former self wouldn't you be pissed off??
2) Now, Lanfere, who was rivaled by no one in her own age and time, is second to some former damane, who is one of the second-rate 3rd age channelers that she loathes so much (not saying that Shai'tan did this intentionally....but then again, knowing the forsaken how he does, maybe he did).
3) We know that she was severed/stilled when she fell through the ter'angreal doorframe, with Moraine, to the Aelfinn's homeland. We know of several women in the series, including Leane, Siuan, and the Aes Sedai from Dumai Well that have been severed. Of these, Leane and Siuan are significantly weaker, because they were healed imperfectly by a female- we know it is imperfect because the other Aes Sedai were healed by a man, and appear to be at their original strength. This last point is my contention though: do we know they are at their original strength, or are they just very close to their original strength (so compared to Leane and Siuan there is no discussion needed about their new strength levels).
Lanfear*
also: I meant that she was not rivaled by any females, and most men...but not everyone
sorry, I'm new to this

Female Forsaken strength : a new post
19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM
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Except...
19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM
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There's no evidence for that
19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM
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I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list
19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM
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It's common sense
19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM
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No, it's based on absolutely nothing
19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM
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If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia...
19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM
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Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start!
19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM
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Hmm...
19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM
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Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference...
19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM
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But I'm not
19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM
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Let me ask you this...
19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM
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All assumption
20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM
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Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance?
20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM
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You don't know the significance of it at all
20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM
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Why?
20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM
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Re: Why?
20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM
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How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)...
20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM
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Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)...
21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM
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Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then?
21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM
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Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed.
20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM
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Yeah... entirely
20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM
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Re: Let me ask you this...
23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM
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*correction*Re: Let me ask you this...
23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM
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What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM*
19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM
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Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post
19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM
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Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity??
19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM
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Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM*
19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM
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Too many levels
20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM
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21 levels is largely a myth
20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM
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I have to disagree for a couple of reasons.
20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM
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I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways
20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM
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Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve
28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM
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more hopefully to come
20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM
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Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask.
20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM
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I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM*
20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM
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I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken
29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM
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