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Its simple really... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM
Or is Aviendha's estimation is wrong. She's new to the Power when she makes the comment.

You keep coming back to this one quote as the proof of your idea that all women somehow fall below the mean-median-mode of the Bell Curve. It's a mathematical impossibility so RJ must be wrong in one of these two quotes. I choose to think it's more logical to assume Aviendha's estimate is wrong.

Can you post the quote or point me to it? I can't seem to find it.


I doubt it's meant to be a mistake on Aviendha's part, lol. Egwene also said that Rand was stronger than she and Aviendha combined. There are lots of these quotes. I'd hesitate to say that RJ is wrong, but he definitely portrayed his idea VERY poorly.


When Egwene made that statement, neither she nor Avi were near potential, and Rand seems to have jumped far enough to be of Asmo's strength at least. So, they may well have been weaker than him.

In contrast, we have Moiraine's statement that Egwene and Avi might be able to match Graendal. Given she has fought Aginor and has an estimate of his strength, this isn't some kind of ridiculous statement.
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Its simple really... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 737 Views
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Easier sulution, and real example. amirebram - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 757 Views
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It does to RJ Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 794 Views
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That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 422 Views
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I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 363 Views
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I like this idea Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 870 Views
Accidental Post *NM* Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 413 Views
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