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Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Sidious Send a noteboard - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM
Bell curves are usually not centered on the mean or median. This is a statistical fact.

Just look at the IQ test bell curve. It's the very best example I can think of as it relates to one power strength.



Most channelers aren't of moderate strength. Most channelers are fairly weak. That is how it worked in the Age of Legends, and that is how it should work today.

Therefore, the bulk of channelers lie heaped together between zero and the halfway mark, and only a rare few exceed that.

So the histogram has a bulge on the lower side, and a thin arm extending upwards beyond the mid strength point (50%)



The series obviously portrays it that way. There's a rapid peak early on and then a rapid descent, and by the time you get to Egwene's strength it's very rare and the line is almost flat.
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength Shannow - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1353 Views
I always thought the curve was one sided Asha'man Warder - 18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM 761 Views
The Curve only refers to the channeling population, not to non-channelers. Shannow - 18/12/2009 01:56:25 PM 769 Views
I would say that your sample is flawed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM 838 Views
well said *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 395 Views
It doesn't matter... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:02:38 PM 699 Views
But, it sort of does. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/12/2009 10:43:08 PM 751 Views
So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM 818 Views
Are you sure it's the same bell curve from the AoL? BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 11:11:19 PM 787 Views
The Tower is restricted to the middle... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 05:35:03 PM 918 Views
Two things... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:28:25 PM 755 Views
The culling theory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:36:34 PM 692 Views
The culling theory applies to the ENTIRE population, not just Aes Sedai... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:42:31 PM 815 Views
Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:48:59 PM 887 Views
Re: Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:06:15 PM 675 Views
Several more things... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:26:19 PM 849 Views
You don't understand your own model... Shannow - 18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM 868 Views
So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 06:03:24 PM 770 Views
Re: So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? Sidious - 19/12/2009 06:10:52 PM 728 Views
Its simple really... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 736 Views
So, Aviendha trumps RJ? A woman who, as late as tGS, doesn't know what she's doing with the OP? fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:12:42 PM 751 Views
Age-Related Sample Bias Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM 711 Views
I have no problem with that...but it implies that the average woman today isn't at 50% of Lanfear... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:46:00 PM 838 Views
Partially agreed... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:13:46 PM 726 Views
Well, the Aes Sedai are the only group that we have detailed strength info about... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:26:48 PM 818 Views
Sharina is AS ... she'd be dead in a few years if she hadn't gone to the Tower *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 01:08:20 AM 833 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... Phelix - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 716 Views
Well Sharina isn't a sparker and she's the strongest AS darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 07:57:17 PM 721 Views
Yes... Phelix - 18/12/2009 08:01:57 PM 812 Views
Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker? Gher - 18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM 700 Views
I think it's just a bad memory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 701 Views
Easier sulution, and real example. amirebram - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 757 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 727 Views
Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM 961 Views
Agree, but a little more curvy is better amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:17:16 PM 661 Views
*facepalm* BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 10:13:16 PM 745 Views
That's just the normalized value graphed on a log scale. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:20:41 PM 713 Views
Dude, Seriously? Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 745 Views
Indeed, and that's why I propose that... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM 731 Views
So RJ used two separate scales, one actual one relative, to explain the same thing? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:33:20 PM 668 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM 711 Views
I'm sorry, but I've never heard of a non-Gaussian bell curve. Can you prove its existence? *NM* fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 03:24:22 AM 414 Views
Maybe people in my field just use the term in a non-technical way. We do things with ... amirebram - 21/12/2009 07:24:43 PM 667 Views
It does to RJ Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 794 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 688 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 422 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 1020 Views
You can have IQ's above that... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 734 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 362 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 702 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's stre Kieran - 19/12/2009 06:02:34 PM 663 Views
I like this idea Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 869 Views
Accidental Post *NM* Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 412 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 677 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: taura-tierno - 27/12/2009 10:05:33 PM 824 Views
What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1021 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? taura-tierno - 28/12/2009 03:19:14 PM 714 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM 923 Views
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