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Are you sure it's the same bell curve from the AoL? BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 18/12/2009 11:11:19 PM
What I'm saying is that Moiraine, a strong Aes Sedai, may not be above average for female channelers as a whole. She may very well be on the upward curve of the bell rather than near the top. A key point to consider is that before her time, there were three Aes Sedai near Cadsuane's strength level, and a few generations before that, we have to assume that there were more powerful Sisters above Cadsuane's level who died before she was born. Thus the White Tower truly is in a decline - perhaps at one point, when Aes Sedai were more respected and less political, it represented a diverse range of strengths, but it seems that as the years wore on and fewer girls sought out the Tower, they dropped below the female average.

I would say that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha are right at the point where above average channelers start merging into stronger channelers but not much further beyond it - they are strong enough to always be considered powerful, but not exceptionally strong enough to be in the same class as the Forsaken.


I find it strange that out of 1000 Aes Sedai in the Tower, not a single one happened to be of average strength before the wondergirls arrived. HOWEVER, I am happy to accept that, because it proves my point that there is a big gap between Lanfear and modern Aes Sedai.

And depending on how far you take it, it will even suggest that Egwene is of average strength, if the Bell Curve refers to Age of Legends standards. In other words, Egwene is half as strong as Lanfear, and a strong Aes Sedai is 25% as strong as Lanfear. Which is perfectly consistent with the text, and makes the Bell Curve work perfectly as well.

The only strange part is that every single modern Aes Sedai is below average strength, but since we are using the same Bell Curve that they used in the Age of Legends, I am perfectly happy with that. It fits with the Forsaken's contempt at women who are so weak that they "should not be let outside without a keeper."

What you've quoted suggests that channeler strengths were much stronger in AoL. And we don't just have to take the Forsaken for their word. Even the Aes Sedai today would admit that fact.
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1896 Views
I always thought the curve was one sided - 18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM 1154 Views
I would say that your sample is flawed. - 18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM 1256 Views
well said *NM* - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 600 Views
It doesn't matter... - 18/12/2009 10:02:38 PM 1077 Views
But, it sort of does. - 18/12/2009 10:43:08 PM 1165 Views
So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM 1334 Views
Are you sure it's the same bell curve from the AoL? - 18/12/2009 11:11:19 PM 1226 Views
The Tower is restricted to the middle... - 18/12/2009 05:35:03 PM 1290 Views
Two things... - 18/12/2009 09:28:25 PM 1185 Views
The culling theory... - 18/12/2009 09:36:34 PM 1101 Views
The culling theory applies to the ENTIRE population, not just Aes Sedai... - 18/12/2009 09:42:31 PM 1244 Views
Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... - 18/12/2009 09:48:59 PM 1326 Views
Re: Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... - 18/12/2009 10:06:15 PM 1071 Views
Several more things... - 18/12/2009 11:26:19 PM 1263 Views
You don't understand your own model... - 18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM 1285 Views
So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? - 19/12/2009 06:03:24 PM 1128 Views
Re: So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? - 19/12/2009 06:10:52 PM 1132 Views
Its simple really... - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 1187 Views
Age-Related Sample Bias - 18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM 1106 Views
I have no problem with that...but it implies that the average woman today isn't at 50% of Lanfear... - 18/12/2009 09:46:00 PM 1213 Views
Partially agreed... - 18/12/2009 10:13:46 PM 1123 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 1107 Views
Well Sharina isn't a sparker and she's the strongest AS - 18/12/2009 07:57:17 PM 1119 Views
Yes... - 18/12/2009 08:01:57 PM 1220 Views
Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker? - 18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM 1085 Views
I think it's just a bad memory... - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 1091 Views
Easier sulution, and real example. - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 1171 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 1108 Views
Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM 1352 Views
Agree, but a little more curvy is better - 19/12/2009 11:17:16 PM 1050 Views
*facepalm* - 18/12/2009 10:13:16 PM 1131 Views
That's just the normalized value graphed on a log scale. - 19/12/2009 11:20:41 PM 1093 Views
Dude, Seriously? - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 1111 Views
Indeed, and that's why I propose that... - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM 1161 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. - 19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM 1131 Views
It does to RJ - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 1193 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 1077 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 618 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 1395 Views
You can have IQ's above that... - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 1135 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 563 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 1101 Views
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I like this idea - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 1358 Views
Accidental Post *NM* - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 603 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 1038 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: - 27/12/2009 10:05:33 PM 1242 Views
What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1426 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? - 28/12/2009 03:19:14 PM 1145 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM 1336 Views

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