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So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? Shannow Send a noteboard - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM
What I'm saying is that Moiraine, a strong Aes Sedai, may not be above average for female channelers as a whole. She may very well be on the upward curve of the bell rather than near the top. A key point to consider is that before her time, there were three Aes Sedai near Cadsuane's strength level, and a few generations before that, we have to assume that there were more powerful Sisters above Cadsuane's level who died before she was born. Thus the White Tower truly is in a decline - perhaps at one point, when Aes Sedai were more respected and less political, it represented a diverse range of strengths, but it seems that as the years wore on and fewer girls sought out the Tower, they dropped below the female average.

I would say that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha are right at the point where above average channelers start merging into stronger channelers but not much further beyond it - they are strong enough to always be considered powerful, but not exceptionally strong enough to be in the same class as the Forsaken.


I find it strange that out of 1000 Aes Sedai in the Tower, not a single one happened to be of average strength before the wondergirls arrived. HOWEVER, I am happy to accept that, because it proves my point that there is a big gap between Lanfear and modern Aes Sedai.

And depending on how far you take it, it will even suggest that Egwene is of average strength, if the Bell Curve refers to Age of Legends standards. In other words, Egwene is half as strong as Lanfear, and a strong Aes Sedai is 25% as strong as Lanfear. Which is perfectly consistent with the text, and makes the Bell Curve work perfectly as well.

The only strange part is that every single modern Aes Sedai is below average strength, but since we are using the same Bell Curve that they used in the Age of Legends, I am perfectly happy with that. It fits with the Forsaken's contempt at women who are so weak that they "should not be let outside without a keeper."
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1574 Views
I always thought the curve was one sided - 18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM 884 Views
I would say that your sample is flawed. - 18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM 955 Views
well said *NM* - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 452 Views
It doesn't matter... - 18/12/2009 10:02:38 PM 818 Views
But, it sort of does. - 18/12/2009 10:43:08 PM 877 Views
So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM 973 Views
Are you sure it's the same bell curve from the AoL? - 18/12/2009 11:11:19 PM 922 Views
The Tower is restricted to the middle... - 18/12/2009 05:35:03 PM 1036 Views
Two things... - 18/12/2009 09:28:25 PM 882 Views
The culling theory... - 18/12/2009 09:36:34 PM 828 Views
The culling theory applies to the ENTIRE population, not just Aes Sedai... - 18/12/2009 09:42:31 PM 938 Views
Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... - 18/12/2009 09:48:59 PM 1011 Views
Re: Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... - 18/12/2009 10:06:15 PM 807 Views
Several more things... - 18/12/2009 11:26:19 PM 965 Views
You don't understand your own model... - 18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM 997 Views
So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? - 19/12/2009 06:03:24 PM 884 Views
Re: So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? - 19/12/2009 06:10:52 PM 856 Views
Its simple really... - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 863 Views
Age-Related Sample Bias - 18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM 832 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 831 Views
Well Sharina isn't a sparker and she's the strongest AS - 18/12/2009 07:57:17 PM 841 Views
Yes... - 18/12/2009 08:01:57 PM 932 Views
Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker? - 18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM 818 Views
I think it's just a bad memory... - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 829 Views
Easier sulution, and real example. - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 894 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 861 Views
Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM 1076 Views
Agree, but a little more curvy is better - 19/12/2009 11:17:16 PM 780 Views
*facepalm* - 18/12/2009 10:13:16 PM 859 Views
That's just the normalized value graphed on a log scale. - 19/12/2009 11:20:41 PM 837 Views
Dude, Seriously? - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 844 Views
Indeed, and that's why I propose that... - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM 855 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. - 19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM 837 Views
It does to RJ - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 929 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 808 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 479 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 1147 Views
You can have IQ's above that... - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 868 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 425 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 822 Views
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I like this idea - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 998 Views
Accidental Post *NM* - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 462 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 796 Views
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What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1154 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? - 28/12/2009 03:19:14 PM 838 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM 1051 Views

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