I would say that your sample is flawed.
RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM
The Tower isn't skewed towards stronger or weaker women - it is skewed towards women who sought it out.
It makes sense to me that so many of the channelers that came after the Novice books were opened were stronger than the average Sister - the Tower's population never had the strongest channelers; it had females who shared certain ideals and personality types.
This would be like trying to figure out the average IQ of the American population by testing a representative sample of the American Bar Association; sure many of them will be very smart and intelligent in whichever measure would be reflected on the IQ test but the broader population of the country would contain many smarter people who never went into the legal field by the virtue of having more members.
In terms of channeler strength, another factor keeps coming to mind, in my opinion - too weak to test for the Shawl is a very different thing than being too weak to make a good Aes Sedai, so their standards need updating as well. Berowin, for example, has such a Talent in Shielding, despite her overall weakness, that you might as well throw out most of the usual estimations as to who can Shield who - she could hold Moghedien at the point in the story we saw her, and with her lack of struggle holding Nynaeve, she may be able to hold more powerful women, as well.
Here is my alternative answer: The women occupying the 50% mark (ie: the elusive average female channeler) is busy in the world raising children, running businesses and minding her own business most likely with a block preventing her from channeling if she had the ability inborn or no training to bring it out with absolutely no interest to become an Aes Sedai in the first place. Even with the Novice books open we are only seeing the segment of the population that wants to be affiliated with the White Tower.
It makes sense to me that so many of the channelers that came after the Novice books were opened were stronger than the average Sister - the Tower's population never had the strongest channelers; it had females who shared certain ideals and personality types.
This would be like trying to figure out the average IQ of the American population by testing a representative sample of the American Bar Association; sure many of them will be very smart and intelligent in whichever measure would be reflected on the IQ test but the broader population of the country would contain many smarter people who never went into the legal field by the virtue of having more members.
In terms of channeler strength, another factor keeps coming to mind, in my opinion - too weak to test for the Shawl is a very different thing than being too weak to make a good Aes Sedai, so their standards need updating as well. Berowin, for example, has such a Talent in Shielding, despite her overall weakness, that you might as well throw out most of the usual estimations as to who can Shield who - she could hold Moghedien at the point in the story we saw her, and with her lack of struggle holding Nynaeve, she may be able to hold more powerful women, as well.
Here is my alternative answer: The women occupying the 50% mark (ie: the elusive average female channeler) is busy in the world raising children, running businesses and minding her own business most likely with a block preventing her from channeling if she had the ability inborn or no training to bring it out with absolutely no interest to become an Aes Sedai in the first place. Even with the Novice books open we are only seeing the segment of the population that wants to be affiliated with the White Tower.
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength
18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM
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I always thought the curve was one sided
18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM
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The Curve only refers to the channeling population, not to non-channelers.
18/12/2009 01:56:25 PM
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I would say that your sample is flawed.
18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM
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It doesn't matter...
18/12/2009 10:02:38 PM
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But, it sort of does.
18/12/2009 10:43:08 PM
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So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength?
18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM
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The Tower is restricted to the middle...
18/12/2009 05:35:03 PM
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Two things...
18/12/2009 09:28:25 PM
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The culling theory...
18/12/2009 09:36:34 PM
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The culling theory applies to the ENTIRE population, not just Aes Sedai...
18/12/2009 09:42:31 PM
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Several more things...
18/12/2009 11:26:19 PM
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You don't understand your own model...
18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM
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So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution?
19/12/2009 06:03:24 PM
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So, Aviendha trumps RJ? A woman who, as late as tGS, doesn't know what she's doing with the OP?
19/12/2009 06:12:42 PM
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Age-Related Sample Bias
18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM
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I have no problem with that...but it implies that the average woman today isn't at 50% of Lanfear...
18/12/2009 09:46:00 PM
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Partially agreed...
18/12/2009 10:13:46 PM
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Well, the Aes Sedai are the only group that we have detailed strength info about...
18/12/2009 10:26:48 PM
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Sharina is AS ... she'd be dead in a few years if she hadn't gone to the Tower *NM*
28/12/2009 01:08:20 AM
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A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion...
18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM
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Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker?
18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM
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Easier sulution, and real example.
18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM
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And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with...
18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM
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Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with...
19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM
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Dude, Seriously?
18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM
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Indeed, and that's why I propose that...
18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM
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So RJ used two separate scales, one actual one relative, to explain the same thing?
18/12/2009 11:33:20 PM
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Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution.
19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM
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I'm sorry, but I've never heard of a non-Gaussian bell curve. Can you prove its existence? *NM*
20/12/2009 03:24:22 AM
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Maybe people in my field just use the term in a non-technical way. We do things with ...
21/12/2009 07:24:43 PM
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That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM*
18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM
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Re: The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's stre
19/12/2009 06:02:34 PM
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Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread
27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM
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Re: The One Power Bell Curve:
27/12/2009 10:05:33 PM
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What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"?
27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM
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