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Re: But you ignore RJ's own quotes... who're you to talk? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 18/12/2009 04:42:33 AM

There's no proof that the curve clusters around the mean


Perhaps journals like Nature and Science should be made aware of this? Sidious, on the basis of his reading of the Wheel of Time, has discovered that there is a new type of bell curve where the curve does not cluster around the mean!
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The relative strength in the Power of Nynaeve vs Cadsuane vs Egwene/Elayne/Aviendha Sidious - 17/12/2009 03:32:03 PM 8500 Views
I assume you're referring to EFFECTIVE strength here... Shannow - 17/12/2009 04:27:53 PM 1697 Views
Re: I assume you're referring to EFFECTIVE strength here... Sidious - 17/12/2009 05:05:18 PM 1662 Views
Fair enough but the problem is... Shannow - 17/12/2009 05:13:39 PM 1477 Views
There's one thing that does suggest Lanfear is very dextrous... fionwe1987 - 17/12/2009 05:49:14 PM 1576 Views
Re: Fair enough but the problem is... Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:08:27 PM 1154 Views
Re: The relative strength in the Power of Nynaeve vs Cadsuane vs Egwene/Elayne/Aviendha darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 04:52:56 PM 1567 Views
Alivia's rings and chains angreal multiplies strength by 4 times or more... Shannow - 17/12/2009 04:57:17 PM 1455 Views
Indeed, and not only that Sidious - 17/12/2009 05:10:46 PM 1158 Views
Re: Alivia's rings and chains angreal multiplies strength by 4 times or more... darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:07:39 PM 1191 Views
Moiraine at 45 strength is way too high. She can't be that high. *NM* Logain - 17/12/2009 07:44:50 PM 773 Views
why? darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 07:57:37 PM 1268 Views
Re: why? Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:11:13 PM 1337 Views
I don't think there is one scale you can put both men and women on is the point darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 08:21:21 PM 1307 Views
and yet RJ does Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:27:39 PM 1224 Views
Re: and yet RJ does darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 09:49:20 PM 1091 Views
Re: and yet RJ does Sidious - 18/12/2009 04:20:16 AM 1156 Views
No more liberty than you are taking assuming only a woman like Graendal could do it! darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 05:08:04 PM 1307 Views
Re: No more liberty than you are taking assuming only a woman like Graendal could do it! Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:53:24 AM 1051 Views
Re: No more liberty than you are taking assuming only a woman like Graendal could do it! darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 05:12:47 PM 993 Views
Meh... Sidious - 19/12/2009 06:01:56 PM 995 Views
Re: Meh... darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 06:43:58 PM 1055 Views
Re: Meh... darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 06:46:03 PM 1343 Views
Re: The relative strength in the Power of Nynaeve vs Cadsuane vs Egwene/Elayne/Aviendha Sidious - 17/12/2009 05:07:28 PM 1271 Views
Re: The relative strength in the Power of Nynaeve vs Cadsuane vs Egwene/Elayne/Aviendha darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:24:12 PM 1180 Views
Let's work with your figures... Shannow - 17/12/2009 06:45:46 PM 1110 Views
Re: Let's work with your figures... darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 07:16:49 PM 1107 Views
You have a good point about Daigian and Semirhage. That may have been a BS mistake. *NM* Logain - 17/12/2009 07:50:25 PM 743 Views
Re: You have a good point about Daigian and Semirhage. That may have been a BS mistake. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 07:59:13 PM 1214 Views
Still, it's created more questions than it has solved. Logain - 17/12/2009 08:13:26 PM 1230 Views
the obvious answer darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 10:06:33 PM 1067 Views
Re: You have a good point about Daigian and Semirhage. That may have been a BS mistake. Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:14:01 PM 1115 Views
Re: two women holding Nynaeve Logain - 17/12/2009 08:17:10 PM 1053 Views
Re: two women holding Nynaeve Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:19:34 PM 1231 Views
I personally think Nynaeve gained strength slower than most because of her block. Logain - 17/12/2009 08:30:44 PM 1315 Views
I think all the main characters were forced Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:38:41 PM 1206 Views
agreed! darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 10:01:37 PM 1130 Views
but we know as late as WH that she has not reached her full potential darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 09:50:12 PM 1138 Views
What? Where? *NM* Sidious - 18/12/2009 04:22:36 AM 1192 Views
I'll have to dig up the quote, apologies but I'm at work and don't have the books darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 05:00:20 PM 1121 Views
Sorry, Path of Daggers not Winter's Heart darius_sedai - 20/12/2009 03:32:33 AM 1078 Views
Don't links amplify stength? BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 10:26:12 PM 1024 Views
The opposite, actually. Phelix - 17/12/2009 10:36:51 PM 1123 Views
Gateway theory refutes this. The size of gateway is relevant to strength Logain - 17/12/2009 07:46:55 PM 1048 Views
Re: Gateway theory refutes this. The size of gateway is relevant to strength darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 07:55:38 PM 1234 Views
What do you think of the gap between Moghedien and Semirhage in relation to Logain - 17/12/2009 05:40:41 PM 1282 Views
It means even Moghedien is vastly stronger than the average modern Aes Sedai... Shannow - 17/12/2009 05:48:09 PM 1248 Views
Re: What do you think of the gap between Moghedien and Semirhage in relation to Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:15:58 PM 1167 Views
Agreed! *NM* Logain - 17/12/2009 08:19:08 PM 658 Views
Re: The relative strength in the Power of Nynaeve vs Cadsuane vs Egwene/Elayne/Aviendha RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 06:47:23 PM 1215 Views
Except tthat Egwene herself says she has no chance against Moghedien... Shannow - 17/12/2009 06:53:18 PM 1186 Views
Re: Except tthat Egwene herself says she has no chance against Moghedien... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:26:55 PM 1417 Views
uhm.... yes she knows Oberonus - 17/12/2009 08:04:08 PM 1265 Views
Re: uhm.... yes she knows RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 10:24:17 PM 1142 Views
yup *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 10:49:51 PM 614 Views
Re: Except tthat Egwene herself says she has no chance against Moghedien... darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 07:28:00 PM 1222 Views
Re: Except tthat Egwene herself says she has no chance against Moghedien... Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:23:01 PM 1409 Views
Ishamael told her that she would never be strong enough to face him darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 09:52:47 PM 1161 Views
And Ishamael was killed be a shepherd and Bel'al balefired by a "weak" Aes Sedai. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 10:33:41 PM 1099 Views
I hope that's not your standard for dueling Sidious - 18/12/2009 04:24:09 AM 1132 Views
what you expect a Channeler to announce themselves and darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 12:47:17 AM 1134 Views
How can we be certain Egwene was at full strength when she said that? Logain - 17/12/2009 07:58:39 PM 1061 Views
agreed darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 08:00:40 PM 1028 Views
Elayne says Egwene was at her full strength in TSR, and thus was stronger than she currently was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 10:25:31 PM 999 Views
Elayne says Egwene was forced and was thus currently stronger darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 10:51:28 PM 1045 Views
Definitely TSR, because I re-read that book constantly - will try to find the section! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 11:23:20 PM 1049 Views
Re: Definitely TSR, because I re-read that book constantly - will try to find the section! darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 11:25:31 PM 1071 Views
Didn't the glossary say that Cadsuane was not far behind Eg/El? *NM* Cannoli - 17/12/2009 08:05:32 PM 665 Views
I'll check *NM* Sidious - 17/12/2009 08:28:57 PM 637 Views
This thread has achieved absolutely nothing. When people don't accept quotes, what's the use... Shannow - 17/12/2009 10:22:45 PM 1189 Views
No people just interpret things differently darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 10:56:45 PM 992 Views
But you ignore RJ's own quotes... who're you to talk? fionwe1987 - 17/12/2009 11:13:40 PM 932 Views
I think they are secretly just trying to make Lanfear appear that much stronger *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 11:17:38 PM 596 Views
You also forget something. Phelix - 17/12/2009 11:36:50 PM 1025 Views
Re: You also forget something. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 11:43:50 PM 1049 Views
Re: You also forget something. Phelix - 18/12/2009 02:09:08 AM 1075 Views
That has nothing to do with what I said... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 12:21:06 AM 1048 Views
Re: That has nothing to do with what I said... Sidious - 18/12/2009 01:28:53 PM 956 Views
Dude, prove it in a random sample, not in a skewed sample like "women who want to be Aes Sedai". fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 05:43:22 PM 983 Views
Show me a random sample in the series that we can use *NM* Sidious - 18/12/2009 06:45:08 PM 975 Views
I cannot. That's the point... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 08:33:38 PM 1004 Views
Re: I cannot. That's the point... Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:58:39 AM 1012 Views
Sorry, but no... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:23:41 PM 1049 Views
The One Power Bell Curve's average strength is not 50, it is more like 15... Shannow - 17/12/2009 11:41:48 PM 1518 Views
but you are the person quantifying the actual strength levels. darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 12:09:08 AM 1020 Views
Yes, Sidious' scale is a relative scale not an absolute one *NM* BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 12:23:25 AM 914 Views
In a Bell curve, mean=median=mode. I suppose that is untrue now? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 12:37:47 AM 965 Views
Re: In a Bell curve, mean=median=mode. I suppose that is untrue now? BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 12:47:52 AM 1014 Views
What do you mean, relative scale? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 12:53:29 AM 970 Views
Re: What do you mean, relative scale? BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 01:16:53 AM 906 Views
Re: What do you mean, relative scale? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 01:40:33 AM 979 Views
OK, I have no interest in OP Strength, but you comments about statistics and bell curve got me BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 12:20:27 AM 1036 Views
1 to 100 works perfectly well as a range... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 12:47:44 AM 947 Views
Here is an example with an absolute scale, converted to relative BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 01:03:38 AM 1063 Views
The Tower is not the whole range of channeler population! fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 01:28:38 AM 1079 Views
Re: The Tower is not the whole range of channeler population! BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 02:03:00 AM 1145 Views
Re: The Tower is not the whole range of channeler population! fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 03:16:25 AM 1083 Views
You're right, and that proves my point - here are the calculations and the evidence... Shannow - 18/12/2009 07:51:26 AM 1066 Views
Dude, read up on some statistics, then we'll continue this debate... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 06:05:26 PM 977 Views
Explain one thing to me... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:40:00 PM 999 Views
Who said she's stronger than two very strong AS? Silviana can shield her alone! *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:01:01 PM 566 Views
Aviendha said so in FoH. It is a direct quote. Shannow - 18/12/2009 11:04:21 PM 958 Views
This is why I have a hard time with anyone using too many darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 12:22:40 AM 1003 Views
Can you provide the quote? fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:24:40 PM 920 Views
Well, I was curious so I went and found it darius_sedai - 26/12/2009 08:59:46 PM 1098 Views
which is also suspect darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 12:04:14 AM 1000 Views
No it's not Sidious - 19/12/2009 12:04:21 PM 996 Views
we're in agreement darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 05:22:34 PM 943 Views
OK, the Tower AS don't fall into a bell-curve, then. BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 10:34:16 PM 1015 Views
So, RJ made that statement for what reason? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:03:30 PM 990 Views
I don't think it's a lie BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 11:19:41 PM 1043 Views
Agreed Sidious - 18/12/2009 01:04:14 PM 985 Views
Re: But you ignore RJ's own quotes... who're you to talk? Sidious - 18/12/2009 04:31:53 AM 984 Views
Re: But you ignore RJ's own quotes... who're you to talk? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 04:42:33 AM 951 Views
Re: But you ignore RJ's own quotes... who're you to talk? Sidious - 18/12/2009 01:04:39 PM 1004 Views
Bell curves CANNOT be skewed! fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 06:06:15 PM 1053 Views
I've discussed this before... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 01:06:07 AM 1050 Views
Re: I've discussed this before... Sidious - 18/12/2009 04:37:30 AM 1031 Views
Re: I've discussed this before... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 04:58:48 AM 1007 Views
Egwene + Lelaine + Romanda is weaker than one male Forsaken...according to Egwene herself... Shannow - 18/12/2009 07:02:28 AM 1042 Views
Why are you entertaining this? Sidious - 18/12/2009 01:19:25 PM 1016 Views
The other poster showed no proof that RJ's math was wrong. Read what he said again! *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 06:09:49 PM 609 Views
Verin's circle matched Granedal dude. And average strength does not mean great strength. fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 06:07:51 PM 1019 Views
Re: Egwene + Lelaine + Romanda is weaker than one male Forsaken...according to Egwene herself... darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 12:46:18 AM 1020 Views
I can't imagine it being about skill Sidious - 19/12/2009 12:06:42 PM 1031 Views
of course it's about skill darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 05:22:45 PM 1016 Views
Not it isn't! Sidious - 19/12/2009 05:52:02 PM 1040 Views
If she was only thinking about strength why then didn't she have a plan to add Sheriam darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 07:09:08 PM 966 Views
I always thought that without her angreal... everynametaken - 18/12/2009 06:27:07 AM 1097 Views
Egwene, Elayne, and Aviendha are equally matched. Heiko - 18/12/2009 07:47:03 AM 1241 Views
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