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It does NOT violate Tower Law, as Myrelle herself said, and Siuan admits. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/12/2009 12:23:25 PM
She bonded Lan against his will. This violates Tower Law, although as I understand it, it is permissible in the context of an Aes Sedai's death. We've seen one or two other incidents where the Aes Sedai died and her warder was bonded by another (Myrelle again...) in save his life.
It does not violate Tower Law, merely offends the sensibilities of women for whom this is none of their business.

I agree with that, but I don't have the book in front of me to verify that Egwene in fact threatened to do just that.
That is the punishment Siuan speculated would be given out by the Hall "...making them pass their warders to others, since they like it so much." Myrelle, Nisao & Siuan all felt it was a credible threat.

I don't much like Egwene as a person, but I think she is a powerful and determined leader.
So were Hitler, Stalin, Linin, Mao & Castro. Your point being?

She was given a position of power in a way that ensured she has no real power. I can't blame her to grab the opportunity presented her to even the scales, even if it involves manipulation and some hypocrisy. It was the fault of the Aes Sedai that chose her to be Amyrlin, at a stage and an age where she was clearly unsuitable and then refused to give her the tools to govern. Would you have preferred she remained a puppet?
It was the fault of the Germans that they elected a loose cannon psycho as Chancellor and passed a law that let him become a dictator. Does that give Hitler the right to do whatever he wants? What is wrong with Egwene being a puppet? What is wrong with the Aes Sedai being governed by the Hall, whom they directly chose for their experience or other qualites? Why should they be governed by a woman most of them would never have chosen? The principle of democracy suggests that a leader controlled by the people's elected representives is better than a dictator with undefined powers, whose level of authority depends on the political weight she can appear to weild! The whole point of the rebellion was to oppose a stron Amyrlin. All this idea that Egwene is owed Elaida's level of deference does is reduce the Tower struggle to a contest of dictators. Think of the situation objectively, not through the personal satisfaction of a PoV character.
Cannoli
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