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Don't be ridiculous Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/12/2009 12:05:46 PM
All you have to ask yourself is why Aes Sedai would accept an Oath of total obedience to anyone. It's clear that the alternative is much worse. It doesn't help to say that they might never have been found guilty or they weren't criminals. All of those women could have raised the roof, gone crazy, and reported the Amyrlin for completely illegal behaviour. And yet they didn't. It settles the scene for me because it explains what's happening in all their minds.

I guess you could see it as a magistrate taking a bribe, but in my opinion it's like a criminal taking a plea bargin and doing something good to atone for something evil they did. In their case it was to follow what Egwene needed done, and her intentions were honourable to unite the Tower.


The did no evil and their fear of punishment does not prove guilt, it merely proves they fear punishment, rightfully or wrongly. Do people pay protection money to the mafia, because they acknowledge the right of the don to a portion of their earnings? No, because they fear that, justly or unjustly, they will suffer worse from a refusal to pay. Myrelle said what they did was legal, therefore she truly believed it. That does not change the fact that the Hall might decide to butt in and punish them unjustly. It should be the Amyrlin's duty to protect her daughters from that kind of injustice, but left caught between two wolves, they chose the one that promised less pain. These are women who think spankings are something to fear. We are not talking about people with great amounts of personal fortitude. The whole hierarchy system of the Aes Sedai forces them to submit to the wishes of superiors. This oath simply amounts to one more person with intrusive authority over them. After decades of Tower conditioning, they simply don't see it as all that big of a deal, and take the Oath rather than lose political face.
Cannoli
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