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What an utterly stupid idea. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/12/2009 11:35:24 AM
You make good points about the damane not being able to shield linked AS.

You probably recall the scene in KoD where the seafolk windfinders link to take Birgitte outside the walls of Caemlyn to rescue Elayne. In that scene, the black ajah sisters (there are something like 7 or 8 of them) are using the one power. The seafolk are linked. I specifically remember the quote saying that it was not an even fight because the seafolk were linked. In other words, NONE of the black ajah, individually, could stop the windfinders from shielding herself.

So I agree with you that linking gives the AS a huge advantage. While EVERY shield the damane throw at a linked group of AS will fail, EVERY shield the AS use against the damane will succeed. It is like when the 13 sisters kidnap Rand in LoC. Rand was powerless to stop them. The AS should go on the offensive and simply gate into Ebou Dar with a hundred groups of 13 women linked, and shield every last damane they see, and capture/execute all the sul'dam. The AS could easily win if they attack now.

The Seanchan dealt a blow to the AS, but I'd like to see the AS fight back with at least a semblance of tactical flare. Egwene has over 2000 channelers at the tower now. She should use them.

She won't do this because she is not a complete and total moron. See, the VAST MAJORITY of enemies whom damane face are NOT channelers and NOT susceptible to shields. Logic would therefore suggest that since the Seanchan sul'dam and damane are USED to facing people whom they cannot shield, they have devised other methods of dealing with them. Lightning bolts. Fireballs. Crap like that. Your suggestion would result in 2000 dead Aes Sedai right quick. The ability to link did not save them from the Shaido Wise Ones or Asha'man at Dumai's Wells after all.

When you link, you basically do nothing other than create a super-strong channeler. You trade a bunch of little guns for one big gun. The other people in the link are merely ambulatory magazines or batteries. Given their inability to fight without their lives being threatened, and their certain knowledge that the Seanchan would prefer to take them alive, the circles jumping into Seanchan territory will not have any first strike capability and very little practice using the Power as a weapon, whereas the Seanchan have institutionalized procedures and practices. Alivia's skill with weapon weaves might not be shared by all the damane, but you can bet the sul'dam have it all down. They view the White Tower as their greatest adversary and believe all other opposition they have faced thus far is connected to the Tower. Do you REALLY think they don't have contingency plans for an army of channelers appearing in their midst? After initial attempts to shield the sisters fail, they will simply start trying to kill them.

The Seanchan collar channelers primarily because they need them to fight other channelers - their top priority is control of all channelers, NOT having the Power. If they cannot leash the channelers, they will destroy them, rather than leave mareth'damane free.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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Learning traveling will help the Seanchan, but the AS still have the advantage. - 17/12/2009 01:13:32 AM 1292 Views
Bryne will without a doubt be in charge - 17/12/2009 01:28:02 AM 649 Views
Re: Learning traveling will help the Seanchan, but the AS still have the advantage. - 17/12/2009 01:39:32 AM 787 Views
Linking provides another benefit. - 17/12/2009 02:02:05 AM 717 Views
Wow, if that happens, I will be her biggest fan *NM* - 17/12/2009 02:10:01 AM 411 Views
What an utterly stupid idea. - 17/12/2009 11:35:24 AM 679 Views
Your facts are incorrect. - 17/12/2009 02:41:42 PM 695 Views
There is a way to get around the "first strike" limitation. - 17/12/2009 05:25:05 PM 614 Views
another linking advantage - 17/12/2009 02:10:56 AM 596 Views
All that will do is take the best fighters out of action. - 17/12/2009 11:55:55 AM 641 Views
I have to agree with Cannoli on this, but with a twist. - 17/12/2009 02:46:03 PM 702 Views
Why mace of air? - 17/12/2009 05:58:32 PM 617 Views
Re: All that will do is take the best fighters out of action. - 17/12/2009 07:38:55 PM 550 Views
Re: All that will do is take the best fighters out of action. - 17/12/2009 08:49:28 PM 521 Views
Why did you post this? - 17/12/2009 09:35:09 AM 696 Views
I have not read Darius Sedai's post. Sorry. *NM* - 17/12/2009 02:49:20 PM 323 Views
What post are you talking about? - 17/12/2009 04:57:14 PM 504 Views
Re: What post are you talking about? - 17/12/2009 11:31:06 PM 624 Views
Here it is - 18/12/2009 12:42:45 AM 576 Views
I actually brought it up in an earlier thread too *NM* - 18/12/2009 12:46:56 AM 314 Views
thanks for the credit... PS I'm a guy *NM* - 18/12/2009 12:10:56 AM 343 Views
Ooops - 18/12/2009 12:48:22 AM 595 Views
I'm totally teasing you ... I added the "sedai" to be snarky - 18/12/2009 12:55:51 AM 984 Views
Yeah, I don't get that: Fantasy gender-nuetral honorific, plus Real World male name = female? - 18/12/2009 05:35:17 AM 650 Views
Cannoli sedai? *NM* - 18/12/2009 02:15:18 PM 596 Views
what about the oaths - 17/12/2009 01:24:57 PM 640 Views
The oaths stand as no bar. - 17/12/2009 02:48:32 PM 617 Views

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