Is that a typo or are you subconsciously unwilling to admit Egwene's erring?
Typo it is!
Hmm. Well, we can hope. I'm more surprised at the absence of any mention of the Logain lie. Especially when we think of how violently Pevara reacted to seeing one of the ferrets, I'd have expected Elaida at least to rant about it. So maybe you are right. I think RJ was aware of this facet of Egwene's personality, as he used it elsewhere too, as I'll explain below.
I was surprised by that too. It really was shoddy writing to ignore that. Especially with her acceptance of the Reds, and choosing a Keeper from among them. I mean, the whole thing could be dealt with easily. Someone asks her if the Reds aren't to be punished for their crimes. She says TG is in the offing, and such things cannot be worked out now. Matter solved for the moment at least. But no...
That's not the problem. Of course she won't. But hypocrisy is the pretense of having moral or virtuous character that one does not in fact possess. Every time she rants about the immorality of someone else using the Oaths to Compel Aes Sedai, she is implying her own moral superiority to them, and using that to her advantage, when she is in fact equally guilty of such actions.
First, I think I've proved that what she did was indeed not the same as using the Oath Rod.
Second, notice what happens with the BA hunters. She accepts their explanation that they needed the fourth Oath to carry their extraordinary plan forward. It is only when they overstep and ask Meidani to do something she certainly would not of her own free will, something that had nothing to do with their extraordinary situation and everything to do with their convinience, that Egwene gets really pissed.
It was the equivalent of Egwene commiting murder in front of the sisters sworn to her and ordering them to never reveal what they knew. I don't know if she could enforce this, but if she could and did, and then condemned the BA hunters, then you'd have a basis to talk.
A similar incident from Egwene is when, in an attempt to prevent Nynaeve from revealing her lies to the Wise Ones, she punishes Nynaeve for lying.
And did Egwene claim to be a paragon of honesty? Read the scene again... Nynaeve is talking about following the rules and speaking the truth, when Egwene challenges her by saying Nynaeve herself was not honest. She was dealing with Nynaeve's hypocrisy, not saying that she was honest and Nynaeve was not.
As an analogy, think of your elder brother accusing you of playing while not doing your homework. Ten minutes ago, he himself was doing the exact same thing, so you call him out on it (in a reprehensible and none too pleasant manner). Are you a hypocrite, or are you calling him out on his hypocrisy?
Of course. But that still means she cannot distinguish the effects of the two.
What two? Blackmail and Compulsion? Of course she can!
Egwene - hypocrite
10/12/2009 01:20:24 PM
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Not the same at all really
10/12/2009 02:12:36 PM
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I agree.
10/12/2009 03:03:49 PM
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What crime? Accepting her unethical promotions? Being afraid of the Hall's injustice?
10/12/2009 03:51:05 PM
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But...
10/12/2009 05:54:39 PM
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She threatened, or made an implied threat, to reveal what they had done.
17/12/2009 12:11:43 PM
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Re: What crime? Accepting her unethical promotions? Being afraid of the Hall's injustice?
10/12/2009 09:08:08 PM
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It does NOT violate Tower Law, as Myrelle herself said, and Siuan admits.
17/12/2009 12:23:25 PM
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I can't decide if you just don't understand the books at all
13/12/2009 05:14:22 AM
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I have doubts about RJ's brain if he actually believed some of the crap he has characters spew
17/12/2009 12:26:52 PM
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Let he who has no sin cast the first stone
10/12/2009 04:34:06 PM
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Not really
10/12/2009 03:06:30 PM
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But what the Amylin said is law, like how she raised those Accepted.
10/12/2009 04:42:51 PM
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Re: But what the Amylin said is law, like how she raised those Accepted.
10/12/2009 11:04:47 PM
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No she was right, and even her blackmail, as reprehensible as that was, was not an act of tyranny
10/12/2009 03:56:41 PM
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Actually, I agree.
10/12/2009 06:47:22 PM
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I like Egwene
10/12/2009 07:08:24 PM
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That really disappointed me.
10/12/2009 07:29:14 PM
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funny, I'm more of the mind set that both groups were right
11/12/2009 12:02:50 AM
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Not the problem.
11/12/2009 12:13:26 AM
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I do agree with DomA and the others on the point that
11/12/2009 07:13:31 AM
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Re: I do agree with DomA and the others on the point that
11/12/2009 08:20:19 AM
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*shrugs*
11/12/2009 02:06:47 PM
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You have no basis for that assertion.
11/12/2009 07:12:03 PM
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They refuse to reveal the Ajah Heads to Egwene, despite her express orders. Doubt Meidani could...
12/12/2009 09:44:23 AM
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Ah, true that.
12/12/2009 07:20:04 PM
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Who said she wasn't wrong?
12/12/2009 09:02:55 PM
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Re: Who said she wasn't wrong?
13/12/2009 04:16:56 AM
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Re: Who said she wasn't wrong?
13/12/2009 08:12:25 AM
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Re: Who said she wasn't wrong?
13/12/2009 07:35:10 PM
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I agree with most of your point
10/12/2009 09:49:18 PM
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Of course she is a hypocrite
11/12/2009 05:22:56 AM
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The same can be said of Nynaeve and Mat
11/12/2009 07:20:47 AM
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