Active Users:412 Time:26/12/2024 04:51:51 PM
Re: Who said she wasn't wrong? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 13/12/2009 04:16:56 AM
As you pointed out, Egwene herself thinks she wasn't wrong.


Is that a typo or are you subconsciously unwilling to admit Egwene's erring?

And while I agree that the Egwene we knew till KoD would certainly have seen some similarity between herself and Elaida over the Oaths and been appalled, I put it down to an error on Brandon's part that he did not discuss this.


Hmm. Well, we can hope. I'm more surprised at the absence of any mention of the Logain lie. Especially when we think of how violently Pevara reacted to seeing one of the ferrets, I'd have expected Elaida at least to rant about it. So maybe you are right. I think RJ was aware of this facet of Egwene's personality, as he used it elsewhere too, as I'll explain below.

I still don't think its anywhere close to hypocrisy on her part though. Especially since, in CoT, she thinks that she cannot abuse her power over these women, both because they would balk and maybe backstab her as well as because it would be an abuse of her power. She was never in danger of going down Elaida's road.


That's not the problem. Of course she won't. But hypocrisy is the pretense of having moral or virtuous character that one does not in fact possess. Every time she rants about the immorality of someone else using the Oaths to Compel Aes Sedai, she is implying her own moral superiority to them, and using that to her advantage, when she is in fact equally guilty of such actions.

A similar incident from Egwene is when, in an attempt to prevent Nynaeve from revealing her lies to the Wise Ones, she punishes Nynaeve for lying.

She thinks it is compulsion because she cannot think of any other way in which 30 Aes Sedai, from two violently opposed factions, would swear fealty to a man who can channel. And she was


Of course. But that still means she cannot distinguish the effects of the two.
The first rule of being a ninja is "do no harm". Unless you intend to do harm, then do lots of harm.
~Master Splinter

Victorious in Bergioyn's legendary 'Reverse Mafia'. *MySmiley*
Reply to message
Egwene - hypocrite - 10/12/2009 01:20:24 PM 1466 Views
Re: Egwene - hypocrite - 10/12/2009 01:33:00 PM 983 Views
Not the same at all really - 10/12/2009 02:12:36 PM 729 Views
How do you explain the BA Hunters? - 10/12/2009 02:21:28 PM 660 Views
I agree. - 10/12/2009 03:03:49 PM 633 Views
Agreed - 10/12/2009 04:01:40 PM 526 Views
Disagree - 10/12/2009 04:50:13 PM 604 Views
Just Agree to Disagree *NM* - 11/12/2009 12:53:46 PM 246 Views
What crime? Accepting her unethical promotions? Being afraid of the Hall's injustice? - 10/12/2009 03:51:05 PM 623 Views
Well... - 10/12/2009 03:58:48 PM 618 Views
Don't be ridiculous - 17/12/2009 12:05:46 PM 511 Views
But... - 10/12/2009 05:54:39 PM 507 Views
Let he who has no sin cast the first stone - 10/12/2009 04:34:06 PM 544 Views
Re: Let he who has no sin cast the first stone - 12/12/2009 12:41:33 PM 491 Views
Leane too - 13/12/2009 06:09:31 AM 475 Views
Not really - 10/12/2009 03:06:30 PM 607 Views
Really - 10/12/2009 04:52:10 PM 503 Views
Re: Really - 10/12/2009 11:56:30 PM 605 Views
Sure. - 10/12/2009 05:03:00 PM 476 Views
Actually, I agree. - 10/12/2009 06:47:22 PM 489 Views
I like Egwene - 10/12/2009 07:08:24 PM 539 Views
That really disappointed me. - 10/12/2009 07:29:14 PM 590 Views
funny, I'm more of the mind set that both groups were right - 11/12/2009 12:02:50 AM 506 Views
Not the problem. - 11/12/2009 12:13:26 AM 455 Views
I do agree with DomA and the others on the point that - 11/12/2009 07:13:31 AM 519 Views
Re: I do agree with DomA and the others on the point that - 11/12/2009 08:20:19 AM 579 Views
*shrugs* - 11/12/2009 02:06:47 PM 532 Views
You have no basis for that assertion. - 11/12/2009 07:12:03 PM 517 Views
Not really the case - 11/12/2009 07:20:43 PM 511 Views
They refuse to reveal the Ajah Heads to Egwene, despite her express orders. Doubt Meidani could... - 12/12/2009 09:44:23 AM 591 Views
Ah, true that. - 12/12/2009 07:20:04 PM 504 Views
Who said she wasn't wrong? - 12/12/2009 09:02:55 PM 485 Views
Re: Who said she wasn't wrong? - 13/12/2009 04:16:56 AM 519 Views
Re: Who said she wasn't wrong? - 13/12/2009 08:12:25 AM 559 Views
Re: Who said she wasn't wrong? - 13/12/2009 07:35:10 PM 475 Views
Re: Who said she wasn't wrong? - 13/12/2009 08:27:53 PM 467 Views
Not true. - 14/12/2009 02:41:28 AM 571 Views
I agree with most of your point - 10/12/2009 09:49:18 PM 595 Views
Fealty swearing sisters are no longer around... - 11/12/2009 12:57:49 AM 486 Views
Re: Fealty swearing sisters are no longer around... - 11/12/2009 07:18:33 AM 505 Views
The main differences between the two oaths - 10/12/2009 07:00:55 PM 694 Views
Of course she is a hypocrite - 11/12/2009 05:22:56 AM 517 Views
The same can be said of Nynaeve and Mat - 11/12/2009 07:20:47 AM 526 Views
Probably because they're all human - 12/12/2009 12:43:53 PM 451 Views
- 12/12/2009 04:05:13 PM 542 Views

Reply to Message