I hate most of that stuff too, though I don't see why we can't have personal attacks - but hey, clean slates all around, and I'll do my best to behave - anyway back to the main point: as I post this, there are about 70 active users. Compared to the hundreds if not 1,000+ that often were on the other site. I would like to imagine we got the 70 best...but is discouraging ANY participation beforehand a good idea until we're up and running some more?