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darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM
I think a BA attack unlikely, for reasons I stated previously. But this is irrelevant because the tower would soon recognise Egwene.

Egwene's battle prep was thus irrelevant - and very nearly a CATASTROPHE. A few more minutes and she would have assaulted a Tower that was ready to give itself up!

This near-disaster was averted by luck. She made no attempt to gather intel.

Her "leadership" was crap. And her cowed advisers acted cowed.

Note that this is in response to claims of her perfection. She did ok in (her) circumstances. Doing ok is not "perfect", especially where her assumptions were shown to be wrong.

.. Oh, and surely she would have been in MORE danger from BA if in the tower? No Elaida to protect her. Mesaana on the loose. Chaos all about. Fookrooted. Kill her and she may just be a Seanchan casualty.

Siuan saved her life, I think.


Go read the chapters where all of this takes place, Egwene evaluates all (or most) of what you are talking about and realizes what she must do. She manages to try and execute 50 BA and get her forces prepared for war in less than 24 hours, she didn't have time to gather "intel" beyond what she learned from Saerin when she picked up the oath rod. It's not like she sat outside for 2 weeks then suddenly decided to attack!

And you are forgetting that when she gets to the bridge her first actions are to hold off the attack because something is clearly going on with the Tower. Her decision to wait for an hour averted the situation!

I'm not saying she was perfect, and neither did Egwene, the whole time this is going on she is agonizing over the decision, but she's also strong enough to realize that if she doesn't force the unification after the Seanchan attack that the Tower would never be whole again.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Semirhage and Egwene redqueen - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1754 Views
I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 992 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 476 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 938 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:33:03 PM 962 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 854 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 992 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* Insomdeon - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 417 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 894 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 916 Views
about Semirhage Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1308 Views
but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 885 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:35:52 PM 879 Views
Re: but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:46:00 PM 956 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:51:03 PM 893 Views
Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. Legolas - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 977 Views
Re: but TaskmasterJack - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 891 Views
Re: but WAV - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 901 Views
She was never THAT person. Wotmaniac Reborn - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 866 Views
Never WHAT person? nossy - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 897 Views
I'm not sure I agree Sidious - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 747 Views
I agree! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 849 Views
Re: about Semirhage redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 886 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Etzel - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1027 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 872 Views
If one compares the characters... Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 808 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 410 Views
You are right... Etzel - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 853 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 827 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 435 Views
That's really nonsense Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 794 Views
I think your perception is very skewed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 824 Views
Agreed Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 856 Views
Bull! fionwe1987 - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 844 Views
Rabbit! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 781 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 845 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 891 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. Lord Haart - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 949 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 875 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own Lord Haart - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 792 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 864 Views
I disagree with most of that rAndy aL - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 870 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... Abunderment - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 905 Views
Hardly a blunder Nameless Ashaman - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 832 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 858 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 746 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 841 Views
darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM 856 Views
She should have attacked when they first arrived Nameless Ashaman - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 784 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal Abunderment - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 806 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal Nameless Ashaman - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 974 Views
A couple of points darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 852 Views
Yes, the Aes Sedai need to rediscover the meaning of "servants of all" *NM* BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 05:03:19 AM 803 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 834 Views
LOL *NM* Sidious - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 345 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... Legolas - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 799 Views
Not at all. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 784 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 879 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 473 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 909 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Abunderment - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 809 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 879 Views
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