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She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM
by no longer being inside the Tower garnering favor over Elaida. Her back was to the wall at this point. The BA in the camp had to be eliminated before she went back or they could have easily scattered to the wind, or worse, created more chaos during a real battle!


I think a BA attack unlikely, for reasons I stated previously. But this is irrelevant because the tower would soon recognise Egwene.

Egwene's battle prep was thus irrelevant - and very nearly a CATASTROPHE. A few more minutes and she would have assaulted a Tower that was ready to give itself up!

This near-disaster was averted by luck. She made no attempt to gather intel.

Her "leadership" was crap. And her cowed advisers acted cowed.

Note that this is in response to claims of her perfection. She did ok in (her) circumstances. Doing ok is not "perfect", especially where her assumptions were shown to be wrong.

.. Oh, and surely she would have been in MORE danger from BA if in the tower? No Elaida to protect her. Mesaana on the loose. Chaos all about. Fookrooted. Kill her and she may just be a Seanchan casualty.

Siuan saved her life, I think.
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Semirhage and Egwene redqueen - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1947 Views
I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 1194 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 568 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 1142 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:33:03 PM 1145 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 1018 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 1179 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* Insomdeon - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 517 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 1112 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 1121 Views
about Semirhage Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1517 Views
but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 1071 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:35:52 PM 1077 Views
Re: but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:46:00 PM 1186 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:51:03 PM 1112 Views
Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. Legolas - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 1240 Views
Re: but TaskmasterJack - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 1072 Views
Re: but WAV - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 1116 Views
She was never THAT person. Wotmaniac Reborn - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 1053 Views
Never WHAT person? nossy - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 1101 Views
I'm not sure I agree Sidious - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 932 Views
I agree! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 1036 Views
Re: about Semirhage redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 1087 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Etzel - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1212 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 1107 Views
If one compares the characters... Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 999 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 504 Views
You are right... Etzel - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 1073 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 1039 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 523 Views
That's really nonsense Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 985 Views
I think your perception is very skewed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 1066 Views
Agreed Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 1068 Views
Bull! fionwe1987 - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 1040 Views
Rabbit! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 981 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 1029 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 1104 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. Lord Haart - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 1126 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 1083 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own Lord Haart - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 988 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 1036 Views
I disagree with most of that rAndy aL - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 1097 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... Abunderment - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 1136 Views
Hardly a blunder Nameless Ashaman - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 1032 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 1062 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 930 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 1037 Views
darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM 1092 Views
She should have attacked when they first arrived Nameless Ashaman - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 955 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal Abunderment - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 995 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal Nameless Ashaman - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 1190 Views
A couple of points darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 1056 Views
Yes, the Aes Sedai need to rediscover the meaning of "servants of all" *NM* BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 05:03:19 AM 1070 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 1031 Views
LOL *NM* Sidious - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 440 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... Legolas - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 1078 Views
Not at all. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 986 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 1089 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 558 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 1168 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Abunderment - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 992 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 1201 Views
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