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Oh some book says it, so it must be true! fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 08/12/2009 05:57:14 AM
"The characterization is thin, with most characters having one trait, continually referred to in order to tell them apart"

Really? So Nynaeve is caring, Egwene is ambitious and Elayne is noble, and this is repeated again and again and sums up their characterization, eh?

Perhaps an actual criticism of the characters, rather than a lazy-assed quote from a book, will serve you better.

As for the issue of themes, I fail to see why exactly the precise meanings of Gnosticism, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism are being discussed. RJ took elements from these and wove them into his story to give a vague sense of familiarity to his setting. That doesn't constitute theme.

RJ's themes are more along the lines of the corruption of information over time and distance, the negative effects of a gender imbalanced society, fate vs. free will and the issues of forced leadership. Others as well, which I may not be able to point out.
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Putting names into a blender isn't the same as weaving together great themes. Tom - 06/12/2009 03:17:05 PM 615 Views
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It may not provide intrinsic value to you. But for me, yes. redhand - 07/12/2009 06:06:40 AM 544 Views
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Read what Larry's Short History of Fantasy says about Jordan. Tom - 07/12/2009 05:56:03 PM 598 Views
Oh some book says it, so it must be true! fionwe1987 - 08/12/2009 05:57:14 AM 473 Views
I Have to Agree With Fionwe's View the Characters Are Deeper. The Name With No Man - 08/12/2009 04:19:07 PM 588 Views
I'm done with this thread. Tom - 08/12/2009 06:21:41 PM 502 Views
Goodbye then! *NM* fionwe1987 - 08/12/2009 06:45:25 PM 183 Views
Fair Enough. The Name With No Man - 08/12/2009 07:02:04 PM 852 Views
If it were just about Jordan I could ignore this last ridiculous comment. Tom - 09/12/2009 03:56:47 PM 569 Views
Louis La'mour said about himself he wasn't an author so much as a storyteller... Shannow - 06/12/2009 03:41:09 PM 544 Views
It's a Popular, If Perhaps Suspicious, Claim. The Name With No Man - 06/12/2009 04:55:25 PM 539 Views
Ha. Funny, I feel the same way, and come to the opposite conclusion. Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2009 08:42:41 AM 499 Views
Amen to that. Lord of the Rings rules! fionwe1987 - 08/12/2009 09:03:33 AM 432 Views
I've never been able to finish the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Too boring, with fairy tale characters Shannow - 09/12/2009 12:28:26 PM 464 Views
That Is a Great Shame. The Name With No Man - 09/12/2009 01:27:44 PM 460 Views
I enjoyed the Silmarrilion though...the part about the Valar and their comparative strengths... Shannow - 09/12/2009 01:39:47 PM 447 Views
Tulkas Was All Brute Force. The Name With No Man - 09/12/2009 02:48:46 PM 614 Views
That's.. too bad, I guess? Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2009 08:40:49 PM 446 Views
Arya Stark, yes... Shannow - 10/12/2009 08:48:32 AM 458 Views
Re: Arya Stark, yes... Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2009 04:56:07 PM 488 Views
Seems to me you've inverted it. Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2009 08:48:07 AM 450 Views
One Way or the Other Their WoT Origin Must Be the Stories We Know (Slight Spoiler Alert.) The Name With No Man - 08/12/2009 03:18:30 PM 551 Views
I have no idea what you are trying to say, sorry. Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2009 08:12:35 PM 464 Views
I'll Try to Rephrase Then (Including the Spoiler. ) The Name With No Man - 09/12/2009 12:49:55 PM 475 Views
I don't really see any "great" themes per se, just an enjoyable story, like the pulp serials. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/12/2009 03:32:43 PM 499 Views
*Agrees 100%* Tom - 07/12/2009 06:04:31 PM 451 Views
I Think He Set Out to Write Epic Fantasy, Yes. The Name With No Man - 08/12/2009 04:25:36 PM 447 Views
Re: I Think He Set Out to Write Epic Fantasy, Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/12/2009 07:26:30 PM 464 Views
True, and That Can Be Very Hard to Separate. The Name With No Man - 09/12/2009 01:14:57 PM 540 Views
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