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You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas Send a noteboard - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM
I have struggled with Elayne and Egwene. I suspect the problem is that they are TOO realistic: teenage girls with a teenage girl world view (it's-all-about-me-pretending-its-about-you).

Here I can see your point, though honestly, if Egwene's guilty of that, most Aes Sedai other than Cadsuane, Moiraine and a few others are. Not being teenage girls, obviously, but self-involved and concerned with nothing but the Tower, their Ajah and themselves, not necessarily in that order.
Inexperienced, immature, hormonal, cute and powerful. No wonder Rand hides away.

Here, somewhat. Elayne has moments when her noble upbringing and lack of understanding of the real world shine through, but they're hardly that frequent, apart from the odd behaviour in SR and FoH; same with Egwene's occasional stupid ideas. And in later books, I don't think you can call either immature, much less inexperienced.
Think of of Elayne as Clare (Hayden Panettiere) in Heroes. Adorable, well meaning, and - to paraphrase Douglas Adams - brain the size of a small plant. (Doesn't dropping a vowel make a difference?)

Actually, she's one of the smartest of the main characters. And, considering her upbringing, surprisingly good at admitting mistakes when she does get it wrong, as seen from Mat's PoV.
Egwene is more Padme (Natalie Portman) in Phantom Menace. A 14 year old elected Queen (one of George's weirder ideas) with that earnest, well-meaning uppity-naivete that is simultaneously sweet and terrifying. Gawyn also suits as Anakin - ninja psychopath incapable of empathy or self-analysis.

Gawyn as Anakin is funny because it's so true. ;) As for Egwene and Padme, I haven't seen tPM in ages... but annoying as Egwene can be, and tiresome as her PoV gets, she's rarely naive.
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If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 377 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 796 Views
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She was never THAT person. - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 770 Views
Never WHAT person? - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 798 Views
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You are right... - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 750 Views
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Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 736 Views
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Gawyn is a fool all of his own - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 793 Views
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Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 767 Views
I disagree with most of that - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 774 Views
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Hardly a blunder - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 733 Views
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Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 657 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 756 Views
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A couple of points - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 760 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 748 Views
LOL *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 301 Views
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Irritating teen spirits ... - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 774 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 433 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 816 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 720 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 753 Views

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