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Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment Send a noteboard - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM
I have struggled with Elayne and Egwene. I suspect the problem is that they are TOO realistic: teenage girls with a teenage girl world view (it's-all-about-me-pretending-its-about-you).

Inexperienced, immature, hormonal, cute and powerful. No wonder Rand hides away.

HOWEVER THERE IS A CURE

Think of of Elayne as Clare (Hayden Panettiere) in Heroes. Adorable, well meaning, and - to paraphrase Douglas Adams - brain the size of a small plant. (Doesn't dropping a vowel make a difference?)

Egwene is more Padme (Natalie Portman) in Phantom Menace. A 14 year old elected Queen (one of George's weirder ideas) with that earnest, well-meaning uppity-naivete that is simultaneously sweet and terrifying. Gawyn also suits as Anakin - ninja psychopath incapable of empathy or self-analysis.

But so what? They're hot. I'd follow Elayne-bear and Padwene to SG. In fact, I'd carry their bags.
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Semirhage and Egwene redqueen - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1656 Views
I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 893 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 430 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 843 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:33:03 PM 875 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 769 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 903 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* Insomdeon - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 376 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 795 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 821 Views
about Semirhage Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1208 Views
but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 803 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:35:52 PM 789 Views
Re: but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:46:00 PM 836 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:51:03 PM 793 Views
Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. Legolas - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 882 Views
Re: but TaskmasterJack - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 792 Views
Re: but WAV - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 806 Views
She was never THAT person. Wotmaniac Reborn - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 769 Views
Never WHAT person? nossy - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 798 Views
I'm not sure I agree Sidious - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 663 Views
I agree! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 764 Views
Re: about Semirhage redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 793 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Etzel - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 928 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 790 Views
If one compares the characters... Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 721 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 377 Views
You are right... Etzel - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 749 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 749 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 399 Views
That's really nonsense Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 729 Views
I think your perception is very skewed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 728 Views
Agreed Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 757 Views
Bull! fionwe1987 - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 759 Views
Rabbit! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 697 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 735 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 802 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. Lord Haart - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 864 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 793 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own Lord Haart - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 700 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 767 Views
I disagree with most of that rAndy aL - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 774 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... Abunderment - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 771 Views
Hardly a blunder Nameless Ashaman - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 733 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 756 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 657 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 756 Views
darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM 782 Views
She should have attacked when they first arrived Nameless Ashaman - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 681 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal Abunderment - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 719 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal Nameless Ashaman - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 873 Views
A couple of points darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 760 Views
Yes, the Aes Sedai need to rediscover the meaning of "servants of all" *NM* BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 05:03:19 AM 714 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 748 Views
LOL *NM* Sidious - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 301 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... Legolas - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 704 Views
Not at all. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 689 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 774 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 433 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 815 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Abunderment - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 720 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 753 Views
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