If you use Dashiva's presence at the Black Tower as evidence that Moridin was running it, then you should also say that Moridin was in control of Egwene through Arangar, which wasn't the case. Arangar was pretty much running her show just as much as Semirhage was running her show in Seanchan, and Mesaana was running the White Tower.
Moridin probably did send Aran'gar to Salidar. After Cabriana was captured, Semirhage got the location of their secret base, and Aran'gar was given the information. She says as much. She also calls Egwene her 'charge', which is a strong hint that she was given her as a mission.
It's the same with Osan'gar. It's ludicrous to think that he'd volunteer to become Rand's minion, and a swordsman who rides a horse. There's not one thing he'd savour in that, especially considering he's useless at it.
Reborn Forsaken are given missions and lose their freedom. Moridin has directly told Lanfear and Moghedien that.
I'm didn't say Dashiva went to the Black Tower on his own, or that Arangar went to Egwene on her own, or that Semirhage and Mesaana decided by themselves to go to their various locations.
It was ALL centrally directed, from about LoC onwards, possibly earlier.
So Arangar and Dashiva were both reporting to Moridin. But the fact that Arangar was in Salidar, meant that Moridin HIMSELF was not directly responsible for it. In the same way, because Dashiva was there for a brief period, it suggests that Moridin himself wasn't the one running things at the Black Tower DIRECTLY.
So the question is, before and after Dashiva's presence at the Black Tower, who was running it? It isn't Moridin, since Graendal says he is focussed on gathering the Shadow's forces in the Blight - a task we thought might be given to Demandred before.
So, who was running the Black Tower in Book 6? And who ran it after Dashiva was allocated to Rand's entourage in the Prologue to Book 7? It was either Demandred, or Taim himself.
I think it was Demandred all along, and that Taim was never more involved with the Black Tower than he was with the White Tower or with the Salidar Aes Sedai, or with the Seanchan.
So from the one extreme - where Linda Sedai suggests that Moridin is Taim himself, I propose the exact opposite, that Moridin is in fact not involved with the Black Tower at all, anymore than he is with any other part of the Shadow's campaign.
How can Moridin not be involved with the BT if his colours are all over it? Even his palace and servants are draped in black and red, and we're to believe that he has no part in the BT, which has Taim ranting about the Lord of Chaos, and covered in red and black.
Taim has always been in charge of the BT - either he is Moridin or he reports directly to him. There's nothing to suggest that Demandred ever commanded the Black Tower.
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Is Demandred able to transpose his personality onto his servants, with a Compulsion type of weave?
06/12/2009 07:26:44 AM
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IMO RJ shot down Taimandred in order to surprise us. But you make good points. *NM*
06/12/2009 10:17:56 AM
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Personally I think...
06/12/2009 10:48:40 AM
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I not only agree with your Arangar theory, I think it is undoubtedly true...
06/12/2009 11:55:25 AM
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I posted a theory at the old wotmania that maybe he is "linked" to Demandred.
06/12/2009 03:23:09 PM
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Very plausible, except
06/12/2009 05:39:41 PM
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Why is Taim believed to be directed by Moridin?
06/12/2009 05:55:44 PM
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Re: Why is Taim believed to be directed by Moridin?
06/12/2009 06:00:15 PM
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If you base it on Osangar, then you should also say Moridin was in charge of Egwene...
06/12/2009 06:04:37 PM
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Re: If you base it on Osangar, then you should also say Moridin was in charge of Egwene...
06/12/2009 06:16:58 PM
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You miss my point entirely...
06/12/2009 06:24:05 PM
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Re: You miss my point entirely...
06/12/2009 06:31:30 PM
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Agreed ... this seems just a hangover from Taimandred theory to me
06/12/2009 06:33:32 PM
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Moridin didn't EXIST when Taim first arrived in Caemlyn...
06/12/2009 06:37:42 PM
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Re: Moridin didn't EXIST when Taim first arrived in Caemlyn...
06/12/2009 07:11:19 PM
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A few points...
06/12/2009 07:24:09 PM
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You are making an assumption that Demandred could have done all this is a few months
06/12/2009 08:18:43 PM
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Yes, I am assuming that...
06/12/2009 08:34:40 PM
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But you are missing a couple of key points
07/12/2009 02:12:04 AM
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Joiya was bullshitting anyway. She couldn't possibly betray her Oaths.
07/12/2009 02:46:13 AM
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Yes
07/12/2009 04:26:21 AM
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While I agree on most of it I have to ask how Taim picked up AoL mannerisms unless
07/12/2009 03:48:41 PM
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Re: While I agree on most of it I have to ask how Taim picked up AoL mannerisms unless
07/12/2009 04:39:05 PM
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Re: While I agree on most of it I have to ask how Taim picked up AoL mannerisms unless
07/12/2009 05:25:42 PM
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I'll have to go back and check, but I could have sworn there was an Aiel thing too
07/12/2009 09:14:29 PM
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No
06/12/2009 06:10:42 PM
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Why Cyndane?
06/12/2009 06:17:02 PM
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Re: Why Cyndane?
06/12/2009 06:24:14 PM
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Besides...
07/12/2009 12:05:16 PM
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100 Ashaman, plus the Dragonsworn, plus the Whitecloaks, plus Murandy would be an achievement...
07/12/2009 12:49:31 PM
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