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I disagree darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM
The others have obviously more advantages and it's - in the logic of the series - more realistic that they have become crucial players:


I actually think Egwene has had far more advantages than the others! She's by far the most well rounded of the main characters... she has experienced life in all of the major WoT cultures... damane, WO and AS as well as lived the life of a common Inn Keepers daughter... that gives her a lot more first hand experience to draw from than any of the others.

Nynaeve is a super strong channeler, was a Wisdom for some years and is married to the potential King of Malkier.


Nynaeve is also so full of her own pride that she's not taken advantage of the AS around her! A touch of humility and Nynaeve would not only be a super strong channeler, she would be a super skilled one... Her experience as Wisdom taught her how to be a bully IMO. Don't get me wrong I adore Nynaeve, but she suffers by refusing to submit to a little ego bruising from time to time.

Elayne is a strong channeler, a most important nobel, had a life time training as heir of the throne and is married to the DR.


Not to downplay her training, but Elayne, as good a Queen as she'll likely be, also was raised as a Noble in the Westlands, this gives her some rather glaring blind spots that we have seen in many other nobles throughout the series. She obviously isn't as ridiculous as nearly every other noble we've met, and she's learned to suppress it throughout the series, but since birth it's been ingrained in her that she has a divine right to be a ruler. She has no concept of what a common persons life is truly like (look at how hard it is for Morgase to emulate being a maid!).

Aviendha is a strong channeler, had a life time training as Aiel and is married to the DR.


Aviendha has a year or so of WO training under her belt, all her other Aiel training was as a Maiden ... and no one is saying Egwene could beat her up :P

Egwene is a Dreamer, a strong channeler with not as much training as the other girls (a mix of novices/Accepted, damane, Aiel and Siuan's training) and has a relationship to the First Prince of Andor.


You are downplaying the most important things

Her damane training forced her to learn more about her abilities than any of the others, she spent nearly as much time as an Apprentice to the WO as Aviendha has, followed by Siuan, the former Amyrlin, being at her side for months whispering advice, and she spent sometime in the TR learning about being the Wisdom from Nynaeve.

Considering all this, it's clearly the most unrealistic that Egwene could manage to become one of the most powerful women in the world.


Egwene has had far more training that the others in many ways! And let's not lose track of the fact that Egwene was also set up by women who thought she would be a puppet, it's not like one day they all just bowed down and decided that a country girl Accepted would make the greatest Amyrlin Seat of all time ... she had to grow into the job for many months before she even started to gain their respect.

If you really think about it the other women are something akin to specialists where Egwene has a much broader knowledge base.
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Semirhage and Egwene - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1741 Views
I agree with all of that. - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 980 Views
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If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 412 Views
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She was never THAT person. - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 855 Views
Never WHAT person? - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 888 Views
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You are right... - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 842 Views
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Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 837 Views
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Gawyn is a fool all of his own - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 866 Views
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Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 853 Views
I disagree with most of that - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 859 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 869 Views
Hardly a blunder - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 823 Views
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Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 736 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 832 Views
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A couple of points - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 844 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 827 Views
LOL *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 342 Views
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Irritating teen spirits ... - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 868 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 471 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 898 Views
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Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 859 Views

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