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Re: about Semirhage redqueen Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM

I think people forget that Semirhage was a shielded channeler. Without the Power, the Forsaken are less than normal people. They rely on their incredible skills and powers with saidin or saidar to create their legend. If you manage to take that from them, they are useless.

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Later however, I think she fully lived up to her legend as the Lady of Pain. Rand was completely broken by her skills. She was by far more sadistic than any of the Chosen have ever been, and she even did it with saidin and physical force - imagine if she'd used her natural abilities.


I agree that Semirhage was much more believable after she'd collared Rand. I remember clutching my book in horror when I first read that scene, certain that Semirhage was going to force Rand to kill Min, and feeling every second of Rand's horrified desperation. Using his own hands and his own Power, it would have snapped his (already fragile) sanity even without the severing of the Warder bond. Given a dungeon and a few weeks to work, she probably could have had him do it even without the collar. But I digress, I wasn't disappointed in Semirhage completely, just in her response to her captivity. Where was the Semirhage who, in the AoL, managed to frighten her jailers into smuggling her to safety? She didn't have saidar then either.

But I suppose, like all the Forsaken, she underestimates the modern people of Randland. She might actually have been arrogant enough to assume she couldn't be captured, which would be idiotic, considering Rand's track record with the other Forsaken. Again, disappointing.
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Semirhage and Egwene - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1754 Views
I agree with all of that. - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 992 Views
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The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 992 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 417 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 894 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 916 Views
about Semirhage - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1308 Views
but - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 885 Views
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Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 977 Views
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Re: but - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 901 Views
She was never THAT person. - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 866 Views
Never WHAT person? - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 897 Views
I'm not sure I agree - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 747 Views
I agree! - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 849 Views
Re: about Semirhage - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 886 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1027 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 872 Views
If one compares the characters... - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 808 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 410 Views
You are right... - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 853 Views
I disagree - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 827 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 435 Views
That's really nonsense - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 794 Views
I think your perception is very skewed - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 824 Views
Agreed - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 856 Views
Bull! - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 844 Views
Rabbit! - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 781 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 845 Views
Indeed - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 891 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 949 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 875 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 792 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 864 Views
I disagree with most of that - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 870 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 905 Views
Hardly a blunder - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 832 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 858 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 746 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 841 Views
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She should have attacked when they first arrived - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 784 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 806 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 974 Views
A couple of points - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 852 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 834 Views
LOL *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 345 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 799 Views
Not at all. - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 784 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 879 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 473 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 909 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 809 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 879 Views

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