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Re: about Semirhage redqueen Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM

I think people forget that Semirhage was a shielded channeler. Without the Power, the Forsaken are less than normal people. They rely on their incredible skills and powers with saidin or saidar to create their legend. If you manage to take that from them, they are useless.

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Later however, I think she fully lived up to her legend as the Lady of Pain. Rand was completely broken by her skills. She was by far more sadistic than any of the Chosen have ever been, and she even did it with saidin and physical force - imagine if she'd used her natural abilities.


I agree that Semirhage was much more believable after she'd collared Rand. I remember clutching my book in horror when I first read that scene, certain that Semirhage was going to force Rand to kill Min, and feeling every second of Rand's horrified desperation. Using his own hands and his own Power, it would have snapped his (already fragile) sanity even without the severing of the Warder bond. Given a dungeon and a few weeks to work, she probably could have had him do it even without the collar. But I digress, I wasn't disappointed in Semirhage completely, just in her response to her captivity. Where was the Semirhage who, in the AoL, managed to frighten her jailers into smuggling her to safety? She didn't have saidar then either.

But I suppose, like all the Forsaken, she underestimates the modern people of Randland. She might actually have been arrogant enough to assume she couldn't be captured, which would be idiotic, considering Rand's track record with the other Forsaken. Again, disappointing.
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Semirhage and Egwene - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1660 Views
I agree with all of that. - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 897 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 431 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 846 Views
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Re: I agree with all of that. - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 771 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 903 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 377 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 796 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 821 Views
about Semirhage - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1215 Views
but - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 805 Views
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Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 885 Views
Re: but - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 795 Views
Re: but - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 807 Views
She was never THAT person. - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 775 Views
Never WHAT person? - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 803 Views
I'm not sure I agree - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 670 Views
I agree! - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 764 Views
Re: about Semirhage - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 794 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 932 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 793 Views
If one compares the characters... - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 724 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 377 Views
You are right... - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 754 Views
I disagree - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 753 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 400 Views
That's really nonsense - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 730 Views
I think your perception is very skewed - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 734 Views
Agreed - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 762 Views
Bull! - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 761 Views
Rabbit! - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 700 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 741 Views
Indeed - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 802 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 864 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 795 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 704 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 769 Views
I disagree with most of that - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 776 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 776 Views
Hardly a blunder - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 735 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 759 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 664 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 759 Views
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She should have attacked when they first arrived - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 686 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 721 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 876 Views
A couple of points - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 762 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 754 Views
LOL *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 302 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 707 Views
Not at all. - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 697 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 783 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 435 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 816 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 723 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 758 Views

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