This explains why Lan's bond was cut. Moiraine is still captive there and will be rescued by Thom, Mat and Noel in ToM. Moiraine will likely be healed by Finn at some point. Otherwise, she'll live a happy rest of her life with Tom as a non-channeler.
Indeed. Moiraine may return as a burned out channeler to live out the rest of her days with Thom. It would be an interesting revelation.
If she was burned out, Flin may well be unable to Heal her.
I agree, and we have Setalle Anan are reinforcement for this. RJ basically passed her by for Healing.
Also, I think the burning of the gateway is just as good an explanation for the snapping of the bond as being burned out.
IMO it's the most likely opinion of all.
This is the part I have the most trouble with.
1)I know BS said a burned out channeler remains so when transmigrated, but this doesn't make much sense to me. When a soul is Reborn, the damage done to its channeling ability in a previous life is erased. This implies that as soon as the soul is free of the body, its channeling ability is restored.
1)I know BS said a burned out channeler remains so when transmigrated, but this doesn't make much sense to me. When a soul is Reborn, the damage done to its channeling ability in a previous life is erased. This implies that as soon as the soul is free of the body, its channeling ability is restored.
I agree, and I think BS is wrong. Aginor definitely burned himself out in EOTW, and Lews Therin most likely did too. I don't buy the idea that dying while overdrawing preserves the link because we have multiple quotes to show that burning out occurs prior to death, and the link is ruined after you overdraw.
I fail to see why the same won't be the case with transmigration. And the fact that Brandon isn't somewhat sure of this points to it not being significant in the whole Lanfear mystery.
2)Unless Moiraine somehow stilled Lanfear (or maybe the Finn did, though I don't see this being possible), Lanfear must have gotten burned out, by your theory. But we have no idea if burning out can be Healed. That is a pretty major assumption.
2)Unless Moiraine somehow stilled Lanfear (or maybe the Finn did, though I don't see this being possible), Lanfear must have gotten burned out, by your theory. But we have no idea if burning out can be Healed. That is a pretty major assumption.
It is, and we don't know what happened.
3)Even if Lanfear was indeed Healed, her current strength makes no sense at all. Siuan says she has barely a lick of her former power. The same is definitely not true of Lanfear. Cyndane is weaker, but still astonishingly strong.
Not necessarily. You may lose a certain amount of strength if you're Healed by the same sex. That means that if Siuan had a strength of 25 and lost 10, she would be on 15, and thus a weak Aes Sedai. Lanfear on the other hand would go from 100 to 90, and still be one of the strongest women in the world.
4)It is unlikely that any of the Forsaken women Healed her. Mesaana tells Demandred she is weaker. If she was the one who Healed her, this would hardly be a surprise. Plus, she cannot Heal. Semirhage likely doesn't know the weave, and almost certainly wouldn't Heal her old enemy. Graendal is ruled out. Moggy is too, both because she cannot Heal and also because she saw Cyndane's cour-sourva on Moridin when she was taken by Shaidar Haran.
I agree - we actually have a quote from one of the Forsaken that states that only Semirhage has the Healing Talent. While she may have done it under orders from Moridin, she would never have remained silent on the topic, especially from her own PoV.
A Yellow from the Rebel camp is possible, but that still leaves us with Cyndane's strength as an issue.
If a DF Yellow Healed her, I'd be very surprised. Neither Aran'gar nor Mesaana have any clue about Cyndane and both are tied up in Salidar and the Tower. The only possibility is that Moridin directly brought a Yellow somewhere to do the deed.
This explanation is neither simple not reasonable. Questions abound, from whether Lanfear would be burned out when transmigrated, to how she can still be so strong.
In fact, there are many questions surrounding the whole episode. It involves two channelers, angreal, a ter'angreal and a parallel dimension. It also includes the fact that we know she survived initially, and now has a new body and a lower strength. There are questions on many levels to be answered.
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Moiraine and Lanfear
- 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM
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Healing, huh?
- 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM
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I'm betting she decides to stay a non-channeler and put her past behind her. *NM*
- 01/12/2009 11:09:32 PM
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I don't think Moiraine was stilled.
- 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM
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what about Lan's bond
- 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM
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The doorway melting and snapping the bond is simple enough for me *NM*
- 01/12/2009 11:24:07 PM
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Re: Moiraine and Lanfear
- 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM
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I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder.
- 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM
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but she'd been there before
- 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM
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I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions
- 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM
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Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used 
*NM*
- 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM
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*NM*
- 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM
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that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond
- 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM
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no more than the assumptions of the actions take on the other side of the door!
- 03/12/2009 07:51:59 AM
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Best. Slashfic. EVER! 
- 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM
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- 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM
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BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well
- 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM
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The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear"
- 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM
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Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear"
- 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM
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Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. 
- 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM
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- 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM
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LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker!
- 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM
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Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either.
- 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM
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I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost
- 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM
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Weird is a given, I think
- 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM
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It may be as simple as...
- 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM
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I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it....
- 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM
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Not sexual, no...
- 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM
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Cairheinin to the Core.
- 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM
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There are several holes with this scenario...
- 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM
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Agreed, the angreal theory seems most likely IMO (about Lanfear/Cyndane) *NM*
- 02/12/2009 05:39:55 AM
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Re: There are several holes with this scenario...
- 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM
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On Cyndane's strength...
- 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM
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Re: On Cyndane's strength...
- 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM
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But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal
- 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM
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I don't think they're equal
- 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM
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There is no deference, which would be expected in their "game" of hating each other
- 03/12/2009 07:38:57 AM
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I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but
- 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM
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Moiraine will make a huge difference to TG (Min's viewing) so I think she will need to channel. *NM*
- 02/12/2009 05:38:03 AM
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Min doesn't channel, and she makes a big difference. As does Thom. *NM*
- 02/12/2009 09:57:10 AM
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agreed - Moiraine doesn't need to channel to make a difference *NM*
- 02/12/2009 04:38:50 PM
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Yub, I generally agree
- 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM
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