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Probably she just got it... Etzel Send a noteboard - 01/12/2009 12:22:57 PM
If Graendal is dead, then her aquisition of the ring angreal has served no puspose in terms of the plot. She hasn't killed one enemy who 'thought they knew her strength', before being unpleasantly surprised.

The scuffle with Cyndane and Moghedien was meaningless from a plot perspective since they never intended to kill her in any case.

Come to think of it, could the unfillfilled use of her angreal be a sign that she is actually still alive? Was her thought about surprising someone with it foreshadowing by RJ, or just a meaningless soundbyte?


To make everything more realistic, but in the end it didn't have a real plot purpose (though there might be subtle things like Graendal acting a bit more confident because of the angreal, etc.).

I think RJ has actually included some such possible important, but in the end rather unimportant details, like also e.g. Masema'a carte blanche from Suroth, or those of BA in Liandrin's group, who Moghedien sent on some unknown mission, and were never mentioned again.
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The loss of angreal Sidious - 30/11/2009 08:22:38 PM 1581 Views
Moiraine's return may sort out 2, 5 and 6 *NM* Iceman - 30/11/2009 08:51:00 PM 540 Views
The Eelfinn probably took their angreal Etzel - 30/11/2009 09:00:16 PM 870 Views
sure who needs them anyway, the good guys are goin to win regardless *NM* Iceman - 30/11/2009 09:41:13 PM 378 Views
Basically! The only question is how? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/11/2009 10:00:15 PM 1030 Views
Lanfear's angreal is not with the Finns Sidious - 01/12/2009 04:29:17 AM 1029 Views
I'm not sure rAndy aL - 01/12/2009 07:11:26 AM 757 Views
she didn't drop it. Mo was clawing it away as they tumbled through. Onarishma - 01/12/2009 08:59:46 AM 813 Views
Verin went to the Tower storerooms looking for the Oath Rod. Fanatic-Templar - 30/11/2009 10:03:27 PM 927 Views
I don't think her angreal belonged to the Tower Sidious - 01/12/2009 04:30:46 AM 831 Views
I really miss the reference desk Fanatic-Templar - 01/12/2009 06:01:55 AM 901 Views
It's mentioned twice in Deceptive Appearances Light in the Night - 01/12/2009 06:23:27 AM 900 Views
I meant it's not mentioned where/how she got it . Fanatic-Templar - 01/12/2009 06:53:17 AM 770 Views
Aahhh.... Light in the Night - 01/12/2009 08:16:15 AM 871 Views
Seems improbable that she would have had it for 50 years if it belongs to the White Tower ursidae - 01/12/2009 07:22:54 PM 847 Views
She also had Corianin Nedeal's ring ter'angreal, the records of which had all been erased. Fanatic-Templar - 01/12/2009 11:15:56 PM 856 Views
Isn't it in the Tower Law that all angreal belong to the Tower? Lohikaarme - 06/08/2010 04:47:07 PM 756 Views
On that note, what was the point of Graendal's angreal? Shannow - 30/11/2009 10:07:41 PM 905 Views
Just another false lead rAndy aL - 30/11/2009 11:59:42 PM 763 Views
Maybe not... she used it to repel Verin's shield Maresu - 14/12/2009 01:14:05 PM 899 Views
It was probably just fun information Sidious - 01/12/2009 04:32:00 AM 769 Views
Bel'al & the famous Tear collection Lohikaarme - 06/08/2010 05:01:03 PM 861 Views
Probably she just got it... Etzel - 01/12/2009 12:22:57 PM 815 Views
Dead or not I thin BS has made it clear she'll be in ToM darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 07:07:10 PM 800 Views
Moridin offered her #2 because... Nameless Ashaman - 01/12/2009 11:52:34 PM 1005 Views
Sorry, I meant what was the plot point of bringing it up only to have her die off b4 it matters! darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 07:17:04 PM 983 Views
The same as Shai'tan promising every Forsaken to be Nae'blis. Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2009 07:59:39 PM 726 Views
Par for the course Nameless Ashaman - 03/12/2009 01:22:38 AM 1067 Views
I wonder why Verin... fionwe1987 - 30/11/2009 10:23:01 PM 906 Views
I think Fanatic Templar is right. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/11/2009 11:24:31 PM 982 Views
She might have mentioned it somewhere in... Great Lord of Chaos - 01/12/2009 02:27:32 AM 810 Views
Re: She might have mentioned it somewhere in... BlackAdder - 02/12/2009 12:47:51 AM 886 Views
Moraine had an Angreal? The only one I recall her having she returned in book 2. *NM* krassos - 30/11/2009 11:25:07 PM 466 Views
Did she return it? I can't recall. *NM* Sidious - 01/12/2009 04:32:50 AM 386 Views
It's been a few years since I read the earlier volumes. *NM* krassos - 02/12/2009 02:03:36 AM 394 Views
She never returned it Ryan - 01/12/2009 06:00:33 AM 753 Views
did the male choedan kal get destroyed or did rand just destroy the access key ter'angreal? *NM* moondog - 01/12/2009 01:24:38 AM 582 Views
from what i've read in tGS, it looks like Rand turned the OP back into the sa'angreal; destroying it Bookwyrm - 01/12/2009 03:07:26 AM 929 Views
So both are now destroyed rAndy aL - 01/12/2009 07:06:56 AM 807 Views
Yup, check out Logain's meeting with the Sea Folk for the story Stolpe - 01/12/2009 09:21:38 AM 998 Views
not in Winter's Heart. Did you mean CoT? Logain makes an appearance there. *NM* Bookwyrm - 01/12/2009 05:45:54 PM 415 Views
At the end of Winter's Heart - the female CK melts. krassos - 02/12/2009 02:06:09 AM 834 Views
It happened off screen then. I dug out my books and found the details in KoD, chapter 22. grrrr *NM* Bookwyrm - 02/12/2009 06:43:59 AM 375 Views
Destroyed With the Power, Which I Wouldn't Have Thought Possible. The Name With No Man - 01/12/2009 11:47:26 AM 936 Views
Meaning What, Exactly? The Name With No Man - 01/12/2009 11:35:43 AM 947 Views
Well thank god Elayne will learn to make them darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 07:02:48 PM 823 Views
Ha, maybe that's why they're rare. Darth_Katie - 01/12/2009 07:38:46 PM 940 Views
Re: Female CK Lord Haart - 14/12/2009 01:13:55 PM 916 Views
The female Choedan Kal was destroyed as well Etzel - 14/12/2009 02:37:53 PM 948 Views
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