"Did Verin lie" was never a huge debate. It did spawn an incredibly idiotic "lightfriends" debate, but it was never as huge as Taimandred and the related debates of who Demandred is and where he is if he isn't Mazrim Taim. Even though Taimandred has been debunked, the issue of Demandred lives on and has contributed to a LOT more discussion than "did Verin lie".
As for Moiraine, it was obvious she wasn't dead from the books. I don't think anyone seriously argued she was dead.
As for Moiraine, it was obvious she wasn't dead from the books. I don't think anyone seriously argued she was dead.
Given it was still ongoing and Taimandred wasn't "did Verin lie" strikes me as much bigger, especially in light of her influence on and knowledge of the main characters. She's spent a lot of time, in some cases decades, with most of the key players on the Light side and she can use Compulsion, so that's a much bigger deal to me than whether Jordan was lying when he said Taim isn't Demandred and that Demandred hasn't appeared as an "alt" (don't quote my wording on that last one because it is a paraphrase from memory.) Frankly, it seems like Jordan deliberately held out on us with Demandred just as he has with Asmo, so it's no surprise that continues. As more secrets are revealed and more mysteries resolved it will be harder and harder to preserve any for the final book, and I'd rather have a shocker then worth the name than the so called "GASP!" moment in KoD.
For the record, I've personally participated in a number of debates about whether Moiraine was alive despite all the foreshadowing and parallels with Gandalf et alia and they only only ceased with the publication of KoD. I never saw a clear consensus, which I attribute mostly to Jordans habit of turning well established tropes on their heads (which is necessary to some extent to prevent anyone with a copy of Mallory or Chretien from ruining the ending.)
Things that irritated you in the book
24/11/2009 08:03:42 AM
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Vora's sa'angreal simply lying on a shelf in an unguarded and unwarded storeroom.
24/11/2009 02:41:06 PM
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There were wards on the door to get in (which Gateways kinda invalidate).
24/11/2009 03:05:03 PM
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It's at least consistent Forsaken idiocy, considering what we saw before...
24/11/2009 03:32:06 PM
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Yeah Be'lol was a huge joke and Mesaana... well we'll find out soon. *NM*
24/11/2009 04:52:34 PM
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Re: Vora's sa'angreal simply lying on a shelf in an unguarded and unwarded storeroom.
27/11/2009 11:30:28 PM
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24/11/2009 02:45:38 PM
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24/11/2009 07:30:52 PM
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24/11/2009 08:56:16 PM
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Regardless of how he did it - you have to give Tuon respect for resisting *NM*
25/11/2009 04:43:31 AM
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24/11/2009 04:03:03 PM
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25/11/2009 06:58:07 AM
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I think that's only for the Amyrlin. IIRC, no one else ever calls initiates daughters.
26/11/2009 02:55:09 AM
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24/11/2009 04:07:54 PM
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We did see Graendal on-screen... in the Prologue.
24/11/2009 04:34:39 PM
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Forkroot isn't completely overcome by Linking
24/11/2009 04:42:03 PM
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Well, forkroot is supposed to prevent someone from channeling
24/11/2009 04:50:29 PM
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You've read the earlier books right?
24/11/2009 05:05:45 PM
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Sure, but the question is really "how"
24/11/2009 05:28:48 PM
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Not ONE of the major fan mysteries was cleared up
24/11/2009 05:16:10 PM
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Meh. It's not like we were promised answers in every book. And this is 1/3 of a book. *NM*
24/11/2009 07:57:41 PM
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I've been waiting since 1994 to find out who killed Asmodean. *NM*
24/11/2009 11:11:59 PM
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Who hasn't? But I just don't see what the fuss is about. It's obviously not that important. *NM*
25/11/2009 02:28:05 AM
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Technically No One But Asmo's Killer Is Certain He's Dead.
27/11/2009 11:48:36 AM
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Correction: there are only TWO books left.
27/11/2009 03:55:53 PM
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"There Are Three" In the Sense of What Was and Wasn't In This One.
28/11/2009 06:07:09 AM
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Wow, you intentionally ignored "Taimandred" and a LOT of debates
29/11/2009 04:02:10 PM
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I Ignored Most Long Settled Debates.
01/12/2009 06:33:36 AM
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My copy of Mallory still guides me, though
02/12/2009 05:46:36 AM
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It's Frequently Useful, No Doubt, and I Wonder Why Others Don't Use It More.
03/12/2009 06:10:04 PM
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I totally agree about Nynaeve.
24/11/2009 07:15:02 PM
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nynaeve is a twenty something most of these women are close to or over 100 years old.
25/11/2009 12:43:18 AM
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