I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM
One additional point I'd add to lend credence to Graendal being higher up the list is this quote:
~The Fires of Heaven
"If this Rand al'Thor really is Lews Therin Telamon reborn," Graendal went on, settling herself on the man's back where he crouched on all fours, "I am surprised you haven't tried to snuggle him into your bed, Lanfear. Or would it be so easy? I seem to remember Lews Therin led you by the nose, not the other way around. Squelched your little tantrums. Sent you running to fetch his wine, in a manner of speaking." She set her own wine on the tray, held out rigidly by the sightlessly kneeling woman. "You were so obsessed with him you'd have stretched out at his feet if he said 'rug'."
No way a woman significantly weaker throws this in Lanfears face! Just minutes later the two almost end up in a duel, if not for Rhavin we may well have seen a chick-Forsaken fight
Graendal is a lot of the things, but stupid is not one of them. We know that she will not risk facing Rand head-to-head, but she was willing to face Lanfear? Very unlikely IMO unless she was close enough in strength that she felt her skill could overcome Lanfear's power.
~The Fires of Heaven
"If this Rand al'Thor really is Lews Therin Telamon reborn," Graendal went on, settling herself on the man's back where he crouched on all fours, "I am surprised you haven't tried to snuggle him into your bed, Lanfear. Or would it be so easy? I seem to remember Lews Therin led you by the nose, not the other way around. Squelched your little tantrums. Sent you running to fetch his wine, in a manner of speaking." She set her own wine on the tray, held out rigidly by the sightlessly kneeling woman. "You were so obsessed with him you'd have stretched out at his feet if he said 'rug'."
No way a woman significantly weaker throws this in Lanfears face! Just minutes later the two almost end up in a duel, if not for Rhavin we may well have seen a chick-Forsaken fight

Graendal is a lot of the things, but stupid is not one of them. We know that she will not risk facing Rand head-to-head, but she was willing to face Lanfear? Very unlikely IMO unless she was close enough in strength that she felt her skill could overcome Lanfear's power.
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post
19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM
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Except...
19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM
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There's no evidence for that
19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM
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I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list
19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM
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It's common sense
19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM
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No, it's based on absolutely nothing
19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM
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If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia...
19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM
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Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start!
19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM
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Hmm...
19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM
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Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference...
19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM
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But I'm not
19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM
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Let me ask you this...
19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM
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All assumption
20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM
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Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance?
20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM
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You don't know the significance of it at all
20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM
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Why?
20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM
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Re: Why?
20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM
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How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)...
20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM
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Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)...
21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM
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Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then?
21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM
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Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed.
20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM
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Yeah... entirely
20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM
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What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM*
19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM
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Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post
19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM
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Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity??
19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM
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Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM*
19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM
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Too many levels
20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM
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21 levels is largely a myth
20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM
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I have to disagree for a couple of reasons.
20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM
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I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways
20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM
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Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve
28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM
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more hopefully to come
20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM
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Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask.
20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM
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I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM*
20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM
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I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken
29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM
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