Active Users:656 Time:17/11/2025 06:15:09 AM
Semirhage did far more destruction than Graendal. Suffa Send a noteboard - 24/11/2009 06:09:18 PM
Semirhage put an entire continent (Seanchan) in turmoil. Graendal put one little nation (Arad Doman) and part of Almoth Plain into turmoil.

I do not know the exact numbers of military troops in Seanchan, but I am guessing there are about a million (if Seanchan is anything like Randland). Semirhage guaranteed that a million Seanchan will not be at the last battle because they are busy fighting among themselves.

Besides the turmoil Semirhage caused in Seanchan, she has effectively (to this point in the story) eliminated Amador, Altara, Tarabon, and Almoth Plain from fielding any soldiers to help Rand. The Seanchan takeover of these lands never would have happened without help and guidance from Semirhage. Time will tell if Fortuona eventually capitulates and comes to the light side's aid. My guess is that she will make the pact with Rand, but more fighting, costing more men, will ensue before the alliance is forged.

In my opinion Semirhage was far deadlier than Graendal.

I do not attribute Rand's insanity and almost destroying the world to Graendal. Rand's problems are four fold: his insanity from Lews Therin, the taint of Saidin, the effect Padan Fain had on him, and Rand's own bad decisions. Graendal had nothing to do with LTT, the taint, or Padan Fain. Arguably Graendal had nothing to do with Rand's decisions. If Graendal did have a role to play with Rand's decisions it was a minor role.

In the end, I definitely attribute Arad Doman's fall to Graendal. No doubt there. However, that is just one nation in Randland.




Reply to message
Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM 1795 Views
It has definitely been hinted - 05/11/2009 08:37:04 AM 845 Views
Graendal wasn't that deadly... - 05/11/2009 09:37:24 AM 908 Views
I think she was - 05/11/2009 02:42:48 PM 755 Views
RJ still put her in the top category of the Forsaken.. - 05/11/2009 05:24:06 PM 833 Views
I think she's the most deadly and intelligent. The others are idiots, IMHO. - 05/11/2009 06:38:30 PM 763 Views
This whole Graendal is alive-idea - 05/11/2009 07:13:16 PM 785 Views
I'm divided on it.. - 05/11/2009 07:19:07 PM 702 Views
Here's the deal, though. Semirhage actions actually followed part of the theory to a tee. - 05/11/2009 07:21:21 PM 717 Views
Ah, anyway... - 05/11/2009 07:58:05 PM 652 Views
I agree with you - 05/11/2009 07:32:39 PM 737 Views
Exactly. - 05/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 942 Views
I just don't understand the logic here - 05/11/2009 07:25:20 PM 791 Views
It's quite simple logic. - 05/11/2009 08:05:15 PM 811 Views
Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 09:41:53 PM 688 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 10:58:01 PM 643 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 11:58:24 PM 783 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 06/11/2009 02:22:51 PM 700 Views
It is a possibility. - 06/11/2009 03:43:22 AM 675 Views
Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 04:23:23 AM 788 Views
Some points no one addressed, a.k.a. Graendal lured Rand in... - 06/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 756 Views
Still no answers. I think I'm correct in feeling she is alive. *NM* - 06/11/2009 09:25:47 PM 281 Views
Re: Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 02:34:54 PM 749 Views
But... - 06/11/2009 02:56:32 PM 692 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:07:02 PM 709 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:53:41 PM 884 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 07:35:12 PM 666 Views
She's definitely the deadiest - 05/11/2009 02:05:23 PM 786 Views
I think she escaped, but it says something that he had to become worse than a Forsaken to do it - 05/11/2009 06:10:08 PM 698 Views
Eventually they will be reborn... - 05/11/2009 06:30:45 PM 616 Views
Thanks for reminding me. Oh well, then I'm stuck with the whole tearing apart the Pattern thing - 05/11/2009 06:44:35 PM 642 Views
Moiraine says. - 05/11/2009 07:02:10 PM 666 Views
In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:14:44 PM 676 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:35:18 PM 770 Views
From what I keep hearing - 05/11/2009 08:58:57 PM 701 Views
I could well believe it - 05/11/2009 11:03:40 PM 610 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 06/11/2009 09:00:01 PM 572 Views
I conceed to Rand's point - 05/11/2009 06:31:38 PM 771 Views
I don't think it's acceptable to tear apart the Pattern to save it. - 05/11/2009 06:40:22 PM 609 Views
True... - 05/11/2009 06:57:24 PM 643 Views
Re: True... - 05/11/2009 07:07:07 PM 638 Views
Re: True... - 05/11/2009 07:35:06 PM 684 Views
Re: True... - 05/11/2009 08:07:42 PM 649 Views
I always thought she was the most dangerous of the chicks. - 06/11/2009 04:28:43 AM 752 Views
Difference between being dangerous and hard to kill--but, she is dangerous - 08/11/2009 02:19:34 AM 715 Views
Semirhage did far more destruction than Graendal. - 24/11/2009 06:09:18 PM 742 Views
Graendal also made chaos in Shara, though... - 24/11/2009 06:36:15 PM 564 Views
It's not surprising when you start looking at her parallels - 12/12/2009 01:03:25 AM 562 Views
Not to take away from Graendal, but my vote goes to Semirhage or Aginor - 16/12/2009 07:03:52 PM 584 Views
meh - 19/12/2009 11:56:12 PM 587 Views

Reply to Message