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no he said the person dies "before" the DO's know's they are gone. Onarishma Send a noteboard - 23/11/2009 02:15:11 AM
We know for a fact that the DO can recover a balefired thread within a certain time period. the severity of the balefire doesn't change the type of damage done to the thread. So if the thread is still usable to the DO then it is still usable by the Pattern. Any interpretations to the contrary are an error on Sandersons part or on the readers part. You can chose which you want but those are pretty much the only options. RJ has established how balefire works already the thread is removed. Not destroyed.


I think he said there is a very limited window and a threshold for the amount of balefire that can be withstood before the thread becomes unusable.

In that case, I think it is burnt forever. Only the DO has any chance of "rescuing" a balefired person.


Balefire kills you earlier in the Pattern. The DO has a specific amount of time available to him to rescue a soul. IF a person is balefired the DO has already lost time when he realizes the person is dead. Only weak balefire would allow him sufficient time to capture the soul. Strong balefire makes it so he doesn't know the person is dead until his window of opportunity is closed.

e.g. Let's say the DO has 10 minutes to grab your soul before the Pattern reabsorbs you. If someone balefires you with weak balefire that only killed you a minute back the DO still has 9 minutes to grab your soul. However if someone uses pretty strong balefire and kills you 15 minutes back the DO is 5 minutes late. Balefire does not destroy the soul RJ said so in everyway.
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Chapter 37 - 08/11/2009 03:15:34 AM 1004 Views
Yes, but limits--can still be re-spun and some balefire may not work - 08/11/2009 03:41:52 AM 628 Views
It's the 're-spun' part that bothers me. - 08/11/2009 04:37:08 AM 615 Views
Can't know, except logic - 08/11/2009 05:03:17 AM 649 Views
That doesn't make sense contextually though. - 08/11/2009 05:36:02 AM 630 Views
Re: That doesn't make sense contextually though. - 08/11/2009 07:17:27 AM 566 Views
Re: That doesn't make sense contextually though. - 08/11/2009 01:25:06 PM 663 Views
Re: That doesn't make sense contextually though. - 09/11/2009 01:42:09 PM 460 Views
balefire doesn't keep you from being respun. - 13/11/2009 09:16:27 AM 605 Views
Re: That doesn't make sense contextually though. - 08/11/2009 08:18:44 PM 563 Views
I maintain that my first impression and my rereading it did not cause me to question how it works - 13/11/2009 09:41:20 AM 514 Views
Hmm - 18/11/2009 11:56:09 PM 469 Views
no he said the person dies "before" the DO's know's they are gone. - 23/11/2009 02:15:11 AM 484 Views
Forever in context means not resurrected not not reincarnated *NM* - 08/11/2009 06:37:50 AM 203 Views
Re: It's the 're-spun' part that bothers me. - 08/11/2009 07:43:03 AM 568 Views
But she has been studying about the workings of the Wheel. - 08/11/2009 08:13:26 PM 508 Views
Re: But she has been studying about the workings of the Wheel. - 08/11/2009 09:08:11 PM 694 Views
Yes, that's always been my opinion as well. - 08/11/2009 10:23:16 PM 526 Views
That's why Balefire is important - 10/11/2009 04:02:32 PM 490 Views

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