You made the assertion, it's not my responsibility to disprove you,
Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 22/11/2009 04:35:14 PM
And the number of quotes would be ridiculous anyway.
In short, the result of the rebellion and Egwene's actions was that:
- BA was destroyed (better to fight 70 of them then be infested with 200 who will backstab the Tower at TG). Verin had noone else to trust with this information (Moiraine was "dead" and Siuan was demoted).
- Egwene - one of the few people that can understand Rand - is now in charge of the AS. Elaida would have botched it unless the rebellion happened, and if not for Egwene, someone like Lelaine would take power. Or Romanda (imagine if the hundreds of overage novices were turned away? A terrible loss for the light).
- It was mainly due to Egwene that there WAS a tower after the Seanchan attack.
So yes, without Egwene and the rebels:
1 - Seanchan destroy the Tower AS.
2 - Black Ajah destroys the rest of the AS, turning on them during the last battle.
3 - Any other Amyrlin will antagonise Rand. Egwene is the ONLY person who has gone through the "box" experience, so with some advice from Nynaeve she will know how to approach him.
4 - Without the Tower, the Kin and Elayne crumble.
5 - Not only that, but the BA will be in a position to directly manipulate leaders unchecked and cause immeasurable damage. Even if Rand wins then, the world he saves will be a dead world.
Have you even read the books? I can't fathom how you can fail to see the importance of Egwene and the Rebels.
If you can't see the point of that subplot, I doubt this is the right series for you. :S
In short, the result of the rebellion and Egwene's actions was that:
- BA was destroyed (better to fight 70 of them then be infested with 200 who will backstab the Tower at TG). Verin had noone else to trust with this information (Moiraine was "dead" and Siuan was demoted).
- Egwene - one of the few people that can understand Rand - is now in charge of the AS. Elaida would have botched it unless the rebellion happened, and if not for Egwene, someone like Lelaine would take power. Or Romanda (imagine if the hundreds of overage novices were turned away? A terrible loss for the light).
- It was mainly due to Egwene that there WAS a tower after the Seanchan attack.
So yes, without Egwene and the rebels:
1 - Seanchan destroy the Tower AS.
2 - Black Ajah destroys the rest of the AS, turning on them during the last battle.
3 - Any other Amyrlin will antagonise Rand. Egwene is the ONLY person who has gone through the "box" experience, so with some advice from Nynaeve she will know how to approach him.
4 - Without the Tower, the Kin and Elayne crumble.
5 - Not only that, but the BA will be in a position to directly manipulate leaders unchecked and cause immeasurable damage. Even if Rand wins then, the world he saves will be a dead world.
Have you even read the books? I can't fathom how you can fail to see the importance of Egwene and the Rebels.
If you can't see the point of that subplot, I doubt this is the right series for you. :S
This message last edited by Lord Haart on 22/11/2009 at 04:47:12 PM
The more I think about it (Egwene and the Rebels)
19/11/2009 08:07:50 PM
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I don't really agree.
19/11/2009 08:22:20 PM
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Assume there was no Rebellion
19/11/2009 10:06:28 PM
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Couldn't be more wrong - delete this evidence-less thread
21/11/2009 06:36:35 PM
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OK...?
21/11/2009 10:16:43 PM
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You made the assertion, it's not my responsibility to disprove you,
22/11/2009 04:35:14 PM
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Re: You made the assertion, it's not my responsibility to disprove you,
23/11/2009 11:37:03 AM
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Egwene could've done most of what she did without screentime. *NM*
19/12/2009 07:30:14 PM
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