also as someone else pointed out she used the article "the" not "a" as in, of THE 2 of us u r THE DF
Onarishma Send a noteboard - 21/11/2009 07:45:26 AM
I have the audio book. So please correct me if the quotes are not correct. I have listen to this many times, but if the reader misread or I misunderstood this could help explain.
Egwene: "...I'd name you darkfriend as well but i suspect the dark one would be embarrassed to be associated with you."
Elaida: "You name me darkfriend? You are the darkfriend. You and those rebels outside..."
Did, Elaida lie or just misunderstand what Egwene said?
Egwene made a point of not directly naming Elida a darkfriend.
Yet, Elaida directly says Egwene did. "You name me darkfriend?"
If she said "You'd name me darkfriend" this would explain it. The only other explanation I can think of is that Elaida in her anger misheard.
Then she says "You are the darkfriend. You and those rebels outside..." directly calling Egwene the darkfriend.
The definition of darkfriend is: "Those who follow the Dark One and believe they will gain great power and rewards when he is freed from his prison."
Elaida may think Egwene and the rebels have been duped into helping the dark one. But unless the knows they are pledged to the dark can she call them a dark friend. If she would have said "I name you a darkfriend" or "I accuse you" of being one this would been more like a charge for a trial.
But unless she truly believes can she directly call them darkfriends?
Thoughts?
Egwene: "...I'd name you darkfriend as well but i suspect the dark one would be embarrassed to be associated with you."
Elaida: "You name me darkfriend? You are the darkfriend. You and those rebels outside..."
Did, Elaida lie or just misunderstand what Egwene said?
Egwene made a point of not directly naming Elida a darkfriend.
Yet, Elaida directly says Egwene did. "You name me darkfriend?"
If she said "You'd name me darkfriend" this would explain it. The only other explanation I can think of is that Elaida in her anger misheard.
Then she says "You are the darkfriend. You and those rebels outside..." directly calling Egwene the darkfriend.
The definition of darkfriend is: "Those who follow the Dark One and believe they will gain great power and rewards when he is freed from his prison."
Elaida may think Egwene and the rebels have been duped into helping the dark one. But unless the knows they are pledged to the dark can she call them a dark friend. If she would have said "I name you a darkfriend" or "I accuse you" of being one this would been more like a charge for a trial.
But unless she truly believes can she directly call them darkfriends?
Thoughts?
As for calling Egwene a darkfriend her evidence is Egwene's and the rebels opposition. If a darkfriend is a kind of enemy any enemy could be honestly if slimly called a darkfriend if you are working for the Light
Elaida and Egwene chapter 16 confrontation.
- 20/11/2009 04:58:09 PM
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Re: Elaida and Egwene chapter 16 confrontation.
- 20/11/2009 05:11:17 PM
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Wow, I agree, and literally just posted a similar response a minute and 33 seconds after you did lol *NM*
- 20/11/2009 05:13:47 PM
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Re: Elaida and Egwene chapter 16 confrontation.
- 21/11/2009 02:42:55 AM
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Can you can lie if you make it a question? As in "I am not Black Ajah?" *NM*
- 22/11/2009 05:45:06 AM
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In the book me is italicized to let us know she is incredulous...
- 21/11/2009 07:19:29 AM
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also as someone else pointed out she used the article "the" not "a" as in, of THE 2 of us u r THE DF
- 21/11/2009 07:45:26 AM
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