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Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 07:12:38 PM
One, he doesn't have to go down to the Mariana trench.
He can make the gateways a couple of hundred feet below sea level, from the deck of a ship for ultimate comfort.
Once sea levels have dropped sufficiently, he can make new gateways at a lower level, and so repeat this rather effortless assault on the planet's climate.
Two, if he descends to the "Mariana trench" in a sphere of air, for example, he doesn't have to make the gateway right next to himself. Rand can make weaves up to 5 miles away, in FoH.
Even if Ishamael can only make a weave 1 mile away, that still gives him plenty of room to rise to the surface again without any danger.
And three, he can just make Deathgates that start close to the surface of the water and gradually move around, going deeper and deeper. That's the easiest solution of all. Only, he won't make them with random openings, he will make them all open into space.
There. That's three solutions in less than 3 minutes. I'm sure you could think of even more if you actually tried before just blasting away at the theory just because you felt like it.
He can make the gateways a couple of hundred feet below sea level, from the deck of a ship for ultimate comfort.
Once sea levels have dropped sufficiently, he can make new gateways at a lower level, and so repeat this rather effortless assault on the planet's climate.
Two, if he descends to the "Mariana trench" in a sphere of air, for example, he doesn't have to make the gateway right next to himself. Rand can make weaves up to 5 miles away, in FoH.
Even if Ishamael can only make a weave 1 mile away, that still gives him plenty of room to rise to the surface again without any danger.
And three, he can just make Deathgates that start close to the surface of the water and gradually move around, going deeper and deeper. That's the easiest solution of all. Only, he won't make them with random openings, he will make them all open into space.
There. That's three solutions in less than 3 minutes. I'm sure you could think of even more if you actually tried before just blasting away at the theory just because you felt like it.
This message last edited by Shannow on 20/11/2009 at 07:13:54 PM
If the Forsaken really wanted to defeat the Light - gateways at the bottom of the ocean...
20/11/2009 02:02:59 PM
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I've actually thought that would be a great way to make a power plant.
20/11/2009 02:48:21 PM
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The Forsaken don't think like that
20/11/2009 02:57:27 PM
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I specifically referred to Ishamael, who shares none of those motivations with the other Forsaken...
20/11/2009 03:11:26 PM
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What in the world... outer space?? This is fantasy, not sci-fi
*NM*
20/11/2009 03:08:26 PM
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RJ has stated that channelers can Travel to other planets, even other solar systems...
20/11/2009 03:12:37 PM
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I didn't expect him to answer that question, it was just something I was wondering about
20/11/2009 04:06:53 PM
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OK...
20/11/2009 05:15:32 PM
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Moghedien talks about how they travelled to other stars in the Age of Legends...
20/11/2009 06:09:17 PM
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Because it is a world that is undergoing an industrial revolution
21/11/2009 01:19:28 AM
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This brings up an "Evil Wins, What Next?" scenario I've always wondered about
20/11/2009 03:39:14 PM
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The DO doesn't have the motivations of the forsaken, he doesn't think like a human...
22/11/2009 03:38:15 PM
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They would have to know the bottom of the ocean very well to create. *NM*
20/11/2009 05:02:50 PM
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Wouldn't be too hard, given Rand's trick. *NM*
20/11/2009 05:12:22 PM
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Intense preasure would kill you before you could weave or a hell of a shield bubble *NM*
20/11/2009 07:01:58 PM
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Gateway "magic" accounts for this, or most gateways would have STRONG breeze
20/11/2009 06:43:44 PM
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Very conducive places, the bottom of the sea and outer space...
20/11/2009 07:01:56 PM
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Knee jerk disagreement without thinking beyond: "I don't like the idea so let's flame it..."
20/11/2009 07:12:38 PM
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And your response is even sillier ideas? Think for more than three minutes before responding again.
20/11/2009 11:08:59 PM
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You need to go read FoH again...
21/11/2009 03:35:01 AM
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The Silliness Continues-Part IV of Shannow's crazy ways to commit suicide...
21/11/2009 05:44:34 AM
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On the limits of power
21/11/2009 07:32:44 AM
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Great question. These fundamental issues are the REAL challenges to be overcome, yes...
21/11/2009 07:50:46 AM
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Fluids CAN move across gateways on their own. We saw it with the draft of wind in tGS. *NM*
21/11/2009 01:32:46 PM
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Oh, and regarding the new Travelling skill Nynaeve mentions in tGS...
21/11/2009 08:03:45 AM
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Ah, thanks
21/11/2009 08:10:48 AM
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Actually, I just reread that passage, and now I'm confused again...
21/11/2009 08:30:17 AM
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Its pretty simple...
21/11/2009 08:07:14 PM
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You don't learn a place when you Travel TO it...
21/11/2009 08:23:11 PM
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The same issue again...
21/11/2009 08:58:37 PM
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They might have shared Gateways, so only those who wove them know the area? *NM*
21/11/2009 10:00:04 PM
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That has to be the first sensible question broached in this thread...
21/11/2009 09:18:59 PM
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The simplest explanation'd be that GWs can't be opened in water, since it moves/changes constantly
20/11/2009 07:27:08 PM
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Or balefire Rand. Wait a few generations near Dragonmount, kidnap all children born on the slopes...
20/11/2009 09:07:46 PM
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Why didn't Frodo and Sam just ride the Eagles to Mt. Doom, and toss the Ring then fly back? *NM*
20/11/2009 10:35:17 PM
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Actually here's an even simpler idea: open a gateway into a Black Hole. *NM*
21/11/2009 01:53:38 AM
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You can't...there aren't any Black Holes close enough...
21/11/2009 03:22:38 AM
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Doubtful
21/11/2009 03:29:35 AM
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Surely Moridin could channel enough of the True Power... *NM*
21/11/2009 01:19:05 PM
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Moridin cannot channel any more of the True Power than he can of the One Power.
21/11/2009 01:58:30 PM
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