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How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM

About your last sentence. Who says Graendal and Semirhage are not on the same level? Give me one quote that proves otherwise?

In fact, give me a convincing argument that even strongly SUGGESTS otherwise?


I was talking about Cyndane.

We don't have a single comparative quote between Graendal and Semirhage, or even between Graendal and Nynaeve, which would allow us to extrapolate to Semirhage.


Well exactly! So what's all this crap about the thematic significance of Semirhage being stronger than Cyndane. Even you admit that Semirhage is an enigma.


I just chuckled to myself at your last comment.

May I ask then, after admitting what you just did in that last paragraph, on what possible basis do you put Graendal THREE LEVELS higher than Semirhage?
This message last edited by Shannow on 20/11/2009 at 07:51:43 PM
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 1655 Views
Except... Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 699 Views
There's no evidence for that Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 652 Views
I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list kcf - 19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM 654 Views
It's common sense Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 633 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 667 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 591 Views
I didn't say that Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 606 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 590 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! Shannow - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 708 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 710 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... Shannow - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 778 Views
But I'm not Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 685 Views
Let me ask you this... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 730 Views
Very good point *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 313 Views
One possibility Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 641 Views
All assumption Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 580 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 565 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 677 Views
Why? Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1200 Views
Re: Why? Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 547 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 586 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 573 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 680 Views
Probably not in this case Sidious - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 562 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. Logain - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 524 Views
Yeah... entirely Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 543 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Logain - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 569 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 628 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 598 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 565 Views
my comments w/ edit kcf - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 651 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 716 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 523 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* callandor1000 - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 397 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 321 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 663 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 674 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 544 Views
Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM 354 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* Basara - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 356 Views
Too many levels Rurouni_Kenshin - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 675 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 556 Views
21 levels is largely a myth kcf - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 556 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth DomA - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 691 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 295 Views
That's good to know. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 523 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 665 Views
I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways Logain - 20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM 662 Views
Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM 691 Views
Re: Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve Logain - 28/11/2009 10:05:15 PM 778 Views
Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 595 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. taura-tierno - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1002 Views
Agree with nearly all Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 558 Views
more hopefully to come kcf - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 534 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. Shannow - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 758 Views
I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM 274 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 553 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 522 Views
It's possible Logain - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 528 Views
Re: It's possible darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 641 Views
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